From East Point to Shaolin, y'all better know that. Yee-uh.

Yes we all know, Hip Hop started out in the deep crevaces of the South Bronx in the early 70's. We know. We know. BUT The South influence has shifted the infrastructure of rap as we know it, in more ways than it is given credit for. The Southern influence on New York rap is unconsciously under-appreciated and criminally underrated. The New York and Southern styles clash showcasing more in common even your most sought after hip hop analyst would be able to identify. In the words of Andre 3000's, now infamous 1995 Source Awards declaration, “The South Got Something To Say." Down bottom a lot of Hip Hop artists were getting a decent amount of hatred and neglect as many of the third coast participants were looked upon as "poor lyricists", clinging tightly to their innovative approach towards their own examples of fashion and street slang, the South became more popular for establishing their own trends. They generated heat due to the sudden public interest and the constant criticism of their technique only helped to fueled the fire. Personally, What I love and respect most Southern artists is that they did not budge from their origins, and stayed true to their roots placing their self compromising respect in tow as they refused to adapt to any other coasts customs. And if you look at today, everyone is now becoming comfortable enough to trace the blueprint imitating Southern style from production, to slanguage, even to the gold teeth and motor vehicles various member in the community drive.


Rap was dominated by the New York/West Coast format all through out the late 1980's and 1990's. While popular acts such as Houston's own The Geto Boys, UGK and New Orleans's own Lil Wayne started making more of a name for themselves from their independent hustle, the South began to demand more attention from the mainstream media in the late 90's. Outkast became one of the first Southern acts to reach platinum status. Outkast didn't just stay true to their roots, they incorporated live instruments into their recordings and perfected a different sound that no one else in their region possessed the capability to master. Outkast became one of the driving forces combining that authentic southern style with that boom bap NY sound.
      
My opinion, but you have the best of both worlds when you can translate the South and NY rap together. The South keep the gumbo pot stirring with their different dynamics for music and you have NY which emcompasses the rugged gritty and raw street lifestyle in the city that never sleeps. Outkast's "Skew It On The Bar B" featuring NY emcee, Raekwon is the perfect example of their ode to the traditional origin and well rounded sound of Hip Hop's raw nature that is New York City. And if I'm not mistaken, this might be the first time where both coasts meet on a track and this is from a top 5 album of all time. Outkast's southern influence and Raekwon's NY flow, made this standout track was an undeniable masterpiece and it made their full length LP, Aquemini flow so much smoother with every other song on that project.

I strongly feel like A$AP Rocky has made the successful leap that he has because as a rapper that is actually from NY,(Harlem to be exact) he has a heavy southern influence. There are A LOT of rappers from NY (no diss in anyway, well take it how you want it) but you can't market them the way that you can with A$AP Rocky. And that's the difference. With the right beats and right lyrics, A$AP Rocky is doing no wrong. He really is bringing something new to rap, something most NY rappers attempted but failed to execute properly. A$AP said it best: "Influenced by Houston, hear it in my music. A trill ni&&a to the truest."
     
Instead of just being caught up in just one area of musical influence, I feel that it's very important to touch other regions with your message. It's a good way for music to make it's impact. With so many rhythms and tones in music, it has more of an impact than it normally does. And when you bring the fundamentals of two creative regions that are responsible for providing a great amount of insight to the living situations of so many commonalities within a community fueled by music, that's the true meaning of strength.

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  • http://www.busstophustle.tumblr.com busstophustle

    Another Miss_Peas editorial with no cohesive point and massive grammatical errors. I think it's great that you guys are trying to enter the editorial game, but Peas is seriously dragging your voice down. Thumbs down.

  • http://Shy Shy

    "Personally, What I love and respect most Southern artists is that they did not budge from their origins, and stayed true to their roots placing their self compromising respect in tow as they refused to adapt to any other coasts customs."
    ^^
    shot fired @ Jay Electronica.

  • bushytop

    i'm ill, literate; peas is just illiterate.

  • marty mcfly

    There is a difference between being influenced and just biting. If you look at Outkast first album you can tell it was influenced by the west. Their 2nd album was influenced by the east BUT on all the Outkast albums they dont just bite a style, they just take an influence and add on to it with their own style and make a new sound of their own. @Shy, Jay Elec was influenced by the east but he has a specific rhyme pattern that most MCs from NY did not use. So yeah he's influenced but he didnt just bite because even to put his kind of rhymes together like how he does he would first have to do the knowledge on what he's talking about. Now we get to Asap Rocky and im a big fan of the Goldie song btw but when you take something specific like chopping and screwing up records with the exact same way as rappers in H town do. Thats going beyond being influenced, thats just biting because he did not chop and screw his songs with his own style or his own effects, he just took it. Now when Outkast did Playas Ball, Wheelz of Steel, and Skew it on the bar b or even Synthesizer. They were obviously influenced by other records but they took that influence and made it their own sound. Its nothing wrong with using sounds from other regions cause if we really wanna be honest, sound itself is universal but dont just bite all together, take a sound and change it into something new. Just my opinion

  • wheredidyougotoschoolmisspeas

    2DopeBoyz needs to get some real writers and editors on this site, if you want to expand. Real talk. This shit is proof of why that should happen.

  • Advance

    Damn this is awful

  • StupidHoe

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  • jrugged

    This is very, very poorly written and it undermines the already mediocre journalism present on this site -- even when subcultural slang is taken into account.

    Disappointing.

  • Jonesy Stark

    I'm from the south, folk. Born, bread and cornbread fed. I was raised on Kast as well as the popular music from every region at the time and I don't really hear the west coast influence on Southernplayalistic. Now both regions have always been closer in production style/lyrical approach than the South/East or West/East have been, but Southernplayalistic is most certainly distinctly Southern from start to finish. They both have that funk/soul influence but that country oozes up out that album from first note to last. All in all solid article, makes me want to go bump some Dungeon Family, ONP is hella underrated.

  • Stop

    ni&&a

  • marty mcfly

    But again, Outkast was never biting and yes they music does sound alot like the roots of what southern music is and thats cause they were using their OWN sound as well as some other influences.

  • Tone Riggz

    I think it's corny as fuck to make music that you have no real attachment to. Since the South has dominated things commercially, there have been a plethora of NY artists trying to rep that Southern style, but strictly for the purpose of trying to make money. I take more pride in the reinvigorated NY indie scene, which has spawned many rappers who've stayed true to their NY roots without selling out for the sake of money. Trill shit? Houston/Bone Thugs flow? But you're from Harlem and the Bronx? c'mon son. That's like being from Australia and rapping like you're from Atlanta...hmmm...

  • Maga D

    Agree with this. I mean, how are you gonna stay to a west coast sound your whole career? or a NY sound? or a southern sound? Change it up a little & get a lot more fans. Good write up.

  • Jeff Hoffman

    Dearest 2DBZ,
    Please do not ever put Outkast and A$AP Rocky in the same story. Outkast are the greatest Rap Group of all time. A$AP is a talentless group of children who have made a name for themselves by dressing like, well, children.

    Thanks In Advance

  • http://2dboyz Untitled

    It's okay to give an opinion without it being distasteful.

    It's so easy to hide behind an IP address. I half way don't mind if it becomes law for your personal info to be disclosed online in order to post on ANY site because I get tired of reading HATE.

    I'm sure all those who critiqued the writing are college graduates with Master degrees who enjoy coming to Hip Hop sites just to point out grammatical errors.

    You must hate everyone in life except yourselves because your PERFECT.

  • C-los

    ^^^ I agree with Untitled about the posts. Even if u got a point and are actually making an argument and not just insulting you're still just bashing. Like damn son someone took their time to write that shit.

    I get what Miss_Peas is saying and I've been listening to Outkast since before I knew what Southern rap was, but I've always felt a clear distinction between Outkast's southern rap and other dirty south acts that seem to put the culture at the forefront rather than the music and having the culture as an obvious influence.

    My point is other southern artists seem to pale in comparison to the iconic status and high regards that Outkast has received, more so than artists in the east and west.

  • david

    @untitled you're*... Nah I'm only playin you got a point about the hate, it's like those people that live just to hate on mainstream artists, i'm not a fan of many mainstream artists (not that it matters) but these self righteous people criticize mainstream fans for judging talent by how many units they move but don't realize themselves that they judge talent by how many units they don't sell, if that makes sense, similar to your point except people do it with mainstream vs underground as well as grammatical errors

  • thethingis…

    the thing about it is, asap sucks.