"I gave Sway his first TV, and he needs to remember that."

Seems like he finally broke his "don't do no press" rule, albeit briefly. Calling DJ Enuff, Kanye speaks on his position on MTV's recent list as well as Big Sean's position, before conceding the top spot to Wayne, the Cruel Summer criticism and more. UPDATE: Both Lil Wayne and Sway respond, via Twitter. Check what they had to say after the jump,


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  • j1

    this nigga is funny as shit lmao

  • MusicHead

    Wayne legacy was cemented once he spit those intro bars on Carter 2 .. Song: "Tha Mobb" .. Y'all gotta stop hating all the time. Homie is rap legend / god. He with original 5 makin it 6. Nas, Big, Pac, Em, Jay, Wayne. No one has had greater & longer prime than Wayne 04-09. Ultimate dominance .

  • linkz

    yoooo what is this nigga on what does the tv have to do with the list ! lmfaooo dail tone ! like really

  • F.A.

    Wayne was a dope rapper. This list is hottest rapper this year, and Wayne definitely is not a good rapper anymore.

  • Ear2ear

    Hahahahaha. I hope people just see the comedy in this call more so than try to analyze it. This was hilarious.

  • randomguy

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • http://www.stillonthebench.blogspot.com TR

    Kanye is too funny man

  • JohnnyTarr

    He ain't lie tho

  • TruthHurtsNigga

    More proof that Ye is falling off...this nigga actually thinks Wayne deserves top spot wow lol.

    If Kanye's whole 'I don't give a fuck, i'm outspoken and say what I fucking want' wasn't an act, he would have the balls to just say Lil Wayne has been fucking wackness for years now.

    Plus 'lucky I ain't have Jay drop him from the team', as well as 'my girl is a star all off a home movie' are two of the most corniest lines of all time...of all time!!...FACT. Wifin' an industry ho ain't nothing to brag about bruh bruh.

    Sad to see him slowly chip away at his legacy.

  • kanyewestisabitch

    shut your mouth goofy !!!! kendrick Lamar number 1!!! periode !!!! he say he give Sway is first interview like always its all about himself , did he ever tought its perhaps the opposit Sway give him his first hiphop journalist interview.

    • satan666

      Nigga you a bitch go die

  • malcyvelli

    yea, that whole "my girl a superstar all from a home movie" nobody is trying to wife industry hoes...aside from wiz but still though, kanye been needing to chill with this shit, plus the fact that he sees this list as so serious lowered my opinion of him, who the fuck cares about that shit, its fucking mtv, wtf do they know?

  • kanyeeast

    ooooo and yes i dont like givenchy kanye !!!!!
    I dont like kimye !!!
    I dont like good music without GLC and Consequence !!!
    that just shits I dont like !!!!
    you just can't force me your style aint dope for me !!
    and you can't say its because of the money or because of the clothes mister west wear coz lookk out jay-z he went for so much different style but he still got my love.
    can sombody please let jay electronica put out iz album please !!!!

  • Still a Kanye Fan tho

    I hit NOPE as soon as i heard him say Wayne is the best rapper! smh

    This nigga has truly lost his mind

  • http://thingswemustdo.tumblr.com Lyniv

    Wow. You gave someone a TV. Whooptie-fuckin-do

  • marty mcfly

    Wayne is NOT the number one rapper in the world and if you or Kanye really think thats the case then you need to go do some research on the other greats in hip hop. Wayne is not top 5 and its its not even certain thats he's top ten, he's probably top 25. Longevity doesn't always beat out impact and classic material.

  • SHOWMAN3000

    Captain Lamo aka Kanye West strikes again!!! No releases (compilation album vs solo) and a handful of features. You should be happy your on the list. Take ya meds brah, focus on ya loose girl and keep in mind that loose broad is gonna be the mother of ya child you whining ass n*gga.

  • BASED

    @Lyniv he is saying that he and sway have history

  • SHOWMAN3000

    *you're on the list

  • http://thingswemustdo.tumblr.com Lyniv

    @BASED So what, you can have history w/ someone and had gave them something. That doesn't mean they owe you for life. That was then and this is now. He probably not even tight w/ Sway anymore. Its just his damn ego, thats all.

  • Ac

    Exactly what Marty said

  • http://tooclutch4tv.tumblr.com TooClutch4TV

    Pusha can't be happy that Wayne is #1 on Kanye's list lol

  • MusicHead

    @marty mcfly Wayne is not #1 right now but HE DEF USED TO BE #1 ..Now Drake is the hottest obviously but once again Kendrick Lamar is the best rapper/ MC alive. Period.

  • malcyvelli

    @MusicHead kendrick lamar? best alive? really though?

  • gregory kruxx.

    I agree with evreything kanye said but the wayne comment. Wayne was dope and probably could be again but these days he is garbage...
    He went from the Mobb to idk all the crap thats out now...but kanyes right...

  • marty mcfly

    @MusicHead, how can one gauge whether or not Wayne was or is the greatest rapper then or now? When he was doing mixtapes and the Carter 1 and 2 weren't there other dope rappers out at the time also? So why would Wayne just be the best because when Wayne was making those projects, 50 was going diamond, Jay was making classic material, and Killa was rhyming Buddhist or Buddah with Judas or Judah and Roota to Toota with hooter to hooter, LOL. So who's to say who was the best? Wanye is more popular and sold way more then say Mos Def but does that mean he's the number one rapper? Idk. Furthermore when Kanye brings up his bar for bar argument, I can see what he's saying but just because Kanye has bars that doesn't mean everybody else doesn't. I thought Common's The Dreamer The Believer and Nas Life Is Good had dope bars too so Kanye cant just assume that he can win the bar for bar argument right off the top as if he just out rapped Jay on every verse on WTT or as if he just out rapped everyone in the game with Cruel Summer.

  • marty mcfly

    And people with this shit about how Kendrick is the best rapper in the game now? Stop it. I see how you assume that because after last year you some how think Kendrick has just shot all the way up to the best rapper after one album but it aint that simple. He gonna need more then GKMC to be the best rapper in hip hop.

  • gregory kruxx.

    marty def has a point. Nas if anything out spit everyone on life is good...I mean everyone...

  • koodabang

    Kanye hanging up at the end is priceless lmao

  • wase

    you know him saying Wayne is the beat rapper was part of his entire rant and dial tone at the end right?

  • 2dope4nope

    It's funny it's just MTV rappers chill smh every other year it's something MTV is always bullshit and Yeezy at the end how ima leave my calls with ppl now remember that *dial tone* haha!

  • marty mcfly

    Nah Kanye actually probably really believes Wayne is the best rapper but imo during the years Wayne was at his hottest musically, T.I made Trap Muzik, Urban Legend, King and T.I vs T.I.P back to back dope albums and honestly I dont think Wanye is better the Tip either.

  • bad kid worst city

    kanye west never speak about kendrick Why ??? sometimes I wonder even if he is awar of what hiphop is really about right now!!
    kendrick lamar was hot on O.D then he became number one with section 80 , the GKMC album is just a confirmation he is young, new and relevant he should be number one !!!! I dont says kendrick is the best rapper alive, I just say is he the hottest rapper right now ???? forsure he is

  • http://yahoo.com KF

    nigga throwin shots over a tv LMAO sway lost

  • MusicHead

    @marty mcfly u bout to lose this one.. check this out there see we're others rapping good & hot during Wayne's prime but let me DON'T U EVER SAY T.I. or them others is better than Wayne ..T.I. thinks of Wayne in the same light that Kanye does & Jay-Z was making classic material ? Yea 2004 w/ Black Album afterwards...STOP. 50 was going diamond nshit NOT BETTER than Wayne overall.. During the with span & overall accolades collected during that time period.. WAYNE WAA FUCKIN NUMBER 1 stop discredit shit.. Yea Mos Def but if u wanna pull that weak ass card Talib Kweli better than Jay..FOH.. U need a combo of sales, delievery, diversity , wordplay, metaphors & mainstream appeal ..Wayne had everything. EVEN TALIB during a concert said to stop hating on Wayne & that Dr. Carter was one if the greatest concept songs he ever heard.. So when it come to this music shut u good but not better than me.. & KENDRICK IS THE BEST RAPPER.. I said that when Section 80 had been out for 6 months so u cud early 2012.. Once he did all the features he did (bodying niggas) & dropped GKMC then it really cemented it.. He dropped a classic album as well as he is BY FAR the most overall best skilled rapper not best lyricist, best delievery, best wordplay , best execution but ALL THAT TOGETHER HE IS THE BEST.. put him on ANY SONG with rapper bet he out shine them not only that I bet he mess around & BODY HIM / renegade his ass...he would prolly body the Goat Nas (which was tough for me to say but I had to swallow pride) back to Wayne his Carter 1&2 albums better than T.I. ever put out Urban Legend is def his best..it's like Wayne's Carter 2 ..King is like Wayne's Carter 3 & Trap Muzik is like Carter 1. Very similar albums & impacts & the way they crept into primes but Wayne not only also had the legendary C2..BUT DEDICATION 2, DROUGHT3, NO CEILINGS & ALL mixtape reign. Quite a few classics under his belt. You just don't like Wayne like that so u not quick to say he is so much great back then & now u really don't cuz he def aint good no more. Just like T.I. 3 back to back dope albums Wayne did it better with projects period.. from Albums/Mixtapes/ stand out songs & he is way more a pop culture icon than T.I. because of his success as a rapper .. I love Tip but he not fuckin w/ Wayne. Wayne with the greats...BACK TO KENDRICK.. He's the best ..Ab-Soul no e but I bet Kendrick will steal the show.. I love ScHoolboy Q the most out of TDE ..but he does what ? He gets that show stole by KDot (which will stop eventually considering how nasty Q gettin) .. No kne's fuckin with Kendrick as a MC.. Yea Drake the hottest l& leader of new school. ..Cole he's the human sleeping pad / 0 progrssioner so don't even BRING HIM UP & Wale is a classic away from blowin up & startin a prime ..& I'm still waitin for KRIT to take over t.i.'s reign as King of the South..time to pass the torch.. Listen I'm never biased (& no u didn't say that just puttin out there) but my faves are def Wale, KRIT, Kendrick Lamar, Nas, Lupe, Casey Veggies, ScHoolboy Q & Big Sean but homie Kendrick is a LEGEND IN THE MAKING.. All these new rappers & middle rappers ..not legacy cemented niggas..but the other 2 FEAR KENDRICK THE KING. Now reply back with some bullshit ....cause you in the wrong ..if u even think different.

  • POACMG

    People are looking for the pink polo kanye. When people like MTV break down these lists, they need to assess them thoroughly. I feel like these are all arbitrary standards that they use. But then again what in hip hop these days isnt.. Numbers. Quality of production. In where things stand on an all out scale of cultural memorability are what matters.

  • three

    thats wasnt even coherent @musichead. music is subjective. the word BEST is a opinionated word. and its true that numbers dont lie, but consistent numbers are the only thing that really matters..
    with that being said, Problem is the best rapper alive. period.

  • marty mcfly

    It dont matter how much you believe Wayne is this and that and how much you believe Kendrick could body Nas. When you say somebody is the best or the greatest MC, it goes far beyond just being a dope artist. Im not gonna argue with if you think Wayne is the best because its your opinion and its not the first time i've heard it but technically when he was the so called best there were others out at the time that were hotter. Thats all im saying. Now you compare Talib Kweli with Jayz? OK fine man if thats what you wanna do then go ahead and have that but once you get passed opinion and start looking at cold hard facts its gonna be hard for that to make sense. With Kendrick I dont know what song or songs he has that is proof that Kendrick is the best MC and I dont know how thats gonna add up at all when you start comparing stats but seriously man he got alot more work to do before he's in any conversation about being the best because its just to many people who have done more at this point. Style wise and lyrically I dont see how he's so much better then everybody else but hey I guess people still jumping for joy over Swimming Pools and Poetic Justice and his Atliens sounding album but he gonna need more heat then that to have that best or greatest convo with me. Especially if you talking about Kendrick boding Nas cause again once when we get down to a bar for bar level, I dont think Kendrick is gonna be up there with the greats at this point , he probably wouldn't even get passed Drake and Big Sean and damn sure not Lupe. So he definitely aint taken no hip hop veterans and legends out. Get mad if you want to but it is what it is. With your main argument which is Wayne, the problem is I could mention other artists with just as many dope projects so who's to say Wayne just automatically is better then them? Thats all im saying, Wayne aint better then everybody else just because he says he is and because of his mixtape run, thats just not enough to really make that claim imo.

  • marty mcfly

    And before you make another rant like you did with Wayne and just replace that argument with Kendrick. Again even if you give Kendrick all the praise in the world and act as if its true, that doesn't mean Kendrick is the best rapper. Having dope albums and dope songs doesn't just automatically make you the best rapper my dude.

  • Cwick

    @MusicHead get a life and learn how to use punctuation you dumbass.

    How can you win anything? How exactly do you go about winning an argument based on difference in opinion? You just wasted you're time writing up all that garbage. I hate moronic people like you that populate the c-section.

  • marty mcfly

    AND on top of that you brought up sales (along with other things) as reasons why Wayne was once the best but before that you said 50 going diamond is not better then Wayne overall. NOT SAYING SALES IS EVERYTHING but im just reading what you said about it. Is Wanye better the 50? idk, is Wayne better then T.I (imo yes but idk) but what I do know is they definitely can compete and imo I think Wayne would end up loosing both those arguments along with a bunch of other MCs that can also spit. When you making a claim that Wayne is the best or that Kendrick is the best MC, make sure you do the history first and make sure they have done more then everybody else and have done it better cause if not then its not really a fact that they the best. If you gonna say Kendrick is the best MC then first make sure no other lyrics can fuck with his lyrics because thats what being he best means.

  • marty mcfly

    Oh my bad with the, is Wayne better then T.I? Imo Hell NO, T.i is better overall.

  • POACMG

    For the record, if Kendrick Lamar does not walk away from this with number 1, we've all wasted our lives on this thread. Happy Trolling.

    -POACMG

  • yung

    as far as being "hot" wayne had to go way left field on some lollipop shit to get a leg up on tip, his "prime years" tip was shittin on him

  • think

    @marty, being the best has no clear definition.that's also all opinion...unless your definition of the best is the same as someone else's..its pointless to argue...any time you use the word best..itsdebatable

  • marty mcfly

    @think, yeah thats fine but he said Kendrick is the best not me. Now if people think Kendrick was the "hottest" last year then ok but as far as him being the best period hands down? NO, and yes its all based on opinion but I do think at some point certain people start standing out as in having the evidence to show that they've reached such a level of excellence that using the word best can start to apply and make sense when their name is brought up especially if they've continuously repeated that same level of excellence every time for years. When someone says Nas is the best, yes its based on opinion but its damn sure alot of substance behind that claim as well.

  • marty mcfly

    You dont have to clearly define the word best but I do think you should know when the word doesn't apply.

  • think

    @marty, some people do start to stand out, and kendrick is one of them...I think because he's a new comer people want to discredit him and say he hasn't done much...but you don't have to have 10 albums to be the best NOW...best is a current thing unless your talkin career...kendrick would be in my top 5 rite now as well as nas,lupe etc..but kendrick has arguable had the best project every year since 2010...od, section 80, good kid maad city...3 years in a row...more consistant than jay,kanye,wayne..and everybody elso on that list arguably..so I jus give credit where its due...

  • think

    Alot of people especially older people try to discredit new rappers because they think they are a threat to there favorite rappers...and try to brush them off by saying they need to do more to be the best...but all you need is to be the best RITE NOW ...is be the best RITE NOW lol...all time, now that's a different story

  • think

    @marty, that sounds good, but doesn't hold any weight because weather the term bestcan be applied to a rapper or not is all opinionated...so it doesn't not apply just because you say so..the world doesn't revolve around you

  • marty mcfly

    What is top 5 "rite now"? Cause either you top 5 or you not. Is there two lists? You can count Kendricks debut as his first album being his first or you can count his others but you cant be that mad if Im looking at the whole game period and artists whole career and saying im sorry three albums aint enough for me to believe he's top 5. Every bar from GKMC would have to be the most incredible lyrics i've ever heard to even remotely make that possible and it wasn't. Now you can argue the point back in forth but surely you understand why I would disagree. When I look at the first three albums from other artists that have been considered some of the best. Their first three projects were dope too so because Kendrick has dope projects that somehow makes him better then other MCs with dope projects? I dont think so

  • MikeWillHateIt

    Kanye was making fun of Wayne. You are all too dumb to understand that. Listen to the way he says "rapper." He's joking about the ridiculous concept of being a "hot rapper" in the first place, and the way MTV ranks "rappers." Of course he would put himself first on the list if the list meant anything more than appealing to a wide audience and making hit singles. When was the last time he did anything with Wayne? Use your heads.

  • marty mcfly

    And no Kendrick is not a threat to older people or anything like that and not everybody just hates to hate for no reason but if Kendrick is now all of a sudden in the top 5 list. Of course im not gonna cosign that and I dont see how either. Of course im gonna consider an artists whole career because what else am I supposed to do? Im supposed to say Kendrick is better then everybody else just because he has a dope debut and some dope independent projects? Thats way to easy if thats all you have to do to be top 5.

  • think

    Exactly, there first three albums were dope too...but when did they come out? A LONG time ago..im talking about now...and top 5 can be a list of anything...when I say top 5 now..that means the best rappers putting the best material out in the most RECENT years....im not mad at you looking at the whole game period, im laughing at you looking at the whole game period when the terms "hottest" and "best" when used with "rite now"..has nothing to do with the period your talking about....what rappers are you talking? Jay z? Nas?..there first 3 albums make them better than kendrick rite NOW? Lol makes perfect sense...again I said im not talking all time...

  • think

    @marty...it is that easy to be in the top 5 currently ...top 5 of all time is another convo(im going to throw that in there in case you missed it last time)...how does old albums from jay or nas make them better rite now than kendrick? If kendrick has had better projects then them in most recent years?

  • marty mcfly

    Ok your talking about 2010 to right now? Correct cause that would be from his first project to his most recent, right? You saying thats the best hip hop material to come out in that time period and you mad at me because I disagree? Thats crazy

  • think

    What im saying is if jordan was playing in the league now, he would be DOMINATED by kobe, lebron etc...does that make them better than him all time? No...but rite now? YES

  • MusicHead

    @ marty mcfly .. Iight 1st fuck anyone who complains about grammar..Im not in school ..the hell? 2nd Wayne has had a better career ..his albums are slightly better & when they were both in they primes & u comparing primes .. Wayne bar for bar was better than T.I. that's the truth & you know it..Wayne didn't blow up for no reason. Homie put in work, was consistent, SHITTED ON NIGGAS & made one of the greatest runs ..maybe if he had never lost the passion he'd still be making great music..but as far as overall MC T.I. WAS NOT BETTER THAN Wayne. C'mon man...smh. As well with the Kendrick RIGHT NOW ! Go listen to "Memories Back Then" "B-Boyz" "The City" "Power Circle" "1Train" "Ridin Roun Town Remix" & any other song he was featured in EVEN Black Bastard Remix (besides Jay Rock) Kendrick had arugably the best verse on there too.. He bested Q on "Blessed" bested Ab-Soul on "Illuminate" .. HAD HIS OWN SONG ON DRAKE's Take Care (iTunes track list buried alive was a separate track) Kendrick can BODY ANY RAPPER when he feel's. J Cole even said it in Hardknock TV interview he had to go re-write his verse when makin a song with Kendrick. He bested Meek Mill on "A1 Everything" bested Cole & KRIT "They Ready" ...& plenty more. I do believe the Nas is the GOAT, Not Pac, Big, Em or Jay but NAS.. & I think the way Kendrick is at this point in his career he can best Nas..NOW ILLMATIC NAS OR IT WAS WRITTEN NAS !? HELL NA. ..but yes even tho Life Is Good was great..he wud get bested by Kendrick...& Big Seam really !? Homie Sean wudnt fuck with Kendrick ..he wud have entertaining verses tho. Now I do believe Lupe cud fuck Kendrick up but it wud be hard to out do verse for verse & same for my boy Wale. Yes Kendrick been the most consistent quality after quality project EVEN the Kendrick Lamar EP is cold .. So EP, OD, Section80, GKMC.. Great projects of consistentcy ..Now I didn't say Wayne was the best ever personally I think ppl shud stop hoopin on the HATE train & give him some credit ..Nas 1 but ifeel Wayne shud be 2... Reason because i respect Big & Pac but if they don't die Pac gets his Will Snith on & starts acting , Biggie he keeps murkin rappers but who knows with Biggie & Em ..he's great but honestly rather ppl wanna give it to him or not ..Em can't because he greatest feat is his sales ..but that's because he's white & of course he gon sell ..now skills yea he cold as fuck but honestly of I asked how many Em songs ppl had on they iPods or phones on average not alot ppl gon tell be much info..Em is used in music debates as a crutch ..yea he got fans but aint nobody really BUMPIN him .. & for Jay ... He great but homie compromises too much .. He is the greatest successful nigga ever tho ..but not the best MC & Wayne had a better prime period. Nas is untouchable because of 1 album .. Illmatic . His pedigree will forever stay intact...& dropped some classics along the way & is the ultimate MC & don't crossover..tho tried but he stated true for the most part. Ill say this a young hungry Wayne will body everyone except for Nas, Big & Em & the only he wud lose to is Nas...but that's another debate ..ill being it up later in another posts. Now back to Kendrick ..once again @think's comment proves it exactly Kendrick IS THE BEST.. NOT hottest cuz 2 Chainz arguably hotter, same for Ross & DEF DRAKE homie headlined his own tour & got niggas like 2 Chainz, Meek & Cole opening up for him ( Club Paradise Summer Tour) & got Rocky & Kendrick opening up & had one of the coldest critical acclaim albums ..THO he shud have never beat Nas for best Rapalbum I wasn't surprised..Drake def the hottest nigga alive & what's crazy he got all the odds AGAINST him ..just cuz of his background & so called softness but he STILLS MAKES the best shit out overall ..but as far as this RAPPIN/ SPITTIN SHIT !? & it's a addicting (hella replay value) & very listenable ..KENDRICK THE BEST FROM his feature verses to his own craft .

  • marty mcfly

    And your asking mr questions about old albums vs Kendricks now and your also using the word best to back up your opinion when you was saying early that the word best is not clearly defined. Just but it like this, you dont have to use my opinion just look at the opinion of the overall culture. Take the debut albums or the first three albums from all the greats and compare it to Kendricks and make your own opinion based on the support from the culture. After that its gonna be clear to see that saying Kendrick is just the best (then or now) is not really backed up all the way by reality and again thats not my opinion thats just what it is.

  • MusicHead

    Think is a very smart man. He's speaking truth. The basketball example WAS PERFECT.

  • think

    ^^doesnt make him the best then..but now...yes it would make sense wouldn't it?...im not saying he's definitely the best..im saying..if he's not a condender than what is the criteria to be the best rite now???have great aalbums17 years ago? Lol....by the way..the overall culter rite now is saying kendrick is the current best..look at the comment section of the video sir

  • marty mcfly

    @MusicHead, alright man I dont think you understood what my point was but if you think Kendrick is the best then good for you man but imo Kendrick can not body everybody he has not bodied everybody (he did not body Drake one songs with him and he has not bodied everybody else) and even with all that crazy shit you say about him being the best. Its a difference between your opinion and reality. If you go look up Kendrick Lamar and compare everything across the board the results will show that he's is not the best. Thats not me hating on him or feeling some kinda way, its just the truth.

  • marty mcfly

    @think the best right now or being the best right now would be giving me 5 songs from Kendrick that no MC in the game has better material then. If we gonna use the word best then of course we gonna get down to bars so please show me how Kendrick has 5 or ore songs that is the best material in that very short period of time you wanna give him top 5 for.

  • marty mcfly

    Shit show me three songs from Kendrick that no MC in hip hop can fuck with because at the end of the day thats what your arguing. The best material

  • MusicHead

    @ Marty mcfly I praise every time u comment on post on this site cuz u always makin the most sense for the most part BUT Kendrick from Hip Hop Head dickriders to regular listeners of all rap ..ppl wud agree or wudnt trip if I claimed him the best RIGHT NOW..the nigga has NO WEAKNESS & if he not the BEST RAPPER RIGHT NOW, WHO IS !!? Kendrick bullshitted his verse on Fuckin Problems right & STILL HAD THE BEST Verse on there. Like I promise the next song he do with a rapper & involves RAPPIN & not a certain concept as far as album story lines go.. HE GON RENEGADE / ETHER THEY ASS.. Kendrick is a monster waitin to devour any MC. I'm not comparing Kendrick of all time ..JUST NOW..

  • marty mcfly

    @MusicHead, if Kendrick was all that you say he is, it would be the first time in hip hop history that we've seen an artist become the best this fast. It would be such a mind fuck that it would probably reach outside of hip hop and start dominating other genres. If Kendrick just came out and was some how the greatest rapper ever it would be one of the biggest events to even happen in music history period. In reality thats just not what happened.

  • MusicHead

    @ marty mcfly CARTOONS & CEREAL , HEAVEN & HELL, BITCH DON'T KILL MY VIBE, RIGAMORTIS (for the flow) The Jig Is Up maybe.. The concept of Money Trees & it's song structure. Look Out For Detox, Ignorance is Bliss.. I honestly cud give u helly Kendrick songs..& he will eat. BUT CARTOONS & CEREAL IS THE PERFECT SONG .. That mf had the hood feel, struggle feel w/ the J Cole effect, Hard Bass, cold Beat, conscious concept, cold ass flow & bars, nice hook, & VERY CHILLFUL GUEST VERSE FROM GUNPLAY. It's attacks all situations & topics & critic wud complain about a song from a rapper if he was to try to find something wrong rather than just listening for the enjoyment .

  • MusicHead

    @marty mcfly the crazy thing is .. HE HAS BECAME THE BEST THIS FAST LMAO.. It's really the honest truth.. It's called being dominant & standing out no matter what song u are ..just because ur skills are the best on every song u get on & Kdot raps like he's been RAPPIN for about 8+ years already ..got the skills of the greats. What type of person had that fast of progression ..& if he not the best ..THEN who is ? Please tell me.

  • think

    @marty, well cool, that's your opinion on what it means to be the best rite now...I respect it...my opinion is you have to have the best overall projects, consistancy in features etc in most recent time period...a rapper can fluke an have 3 great songs....but its hard to fluke an entire 12 song album that's consistant all the way through....but kendrick definitely would definitely not be the first in history to be named the best so fast..soon as nas dropped illmatic people were calling him the best lol, my point exactly..doesn't matter if its 1 album...its 1 album better than every other album so he's the best for that time period

  • marty mcfly

    So you wanna say Cartoons & Cereal, Heaven & Hell and Bitch Dont Kill My Vibe are the best songs to come out in the last three years? and 2ndly you saying because of that he's the best MC now?

  • marty mcfly

    If Kendrick is the first to be the best this fast now then if I say well Drake did well too in the last three years, if not better then how you mad at me?

  • MusicHead

    @think you are a genius my brotha.. EXACTLY .. Great Nas example. @marty mcfly I do believe that Heaven & Hell & Cartoons & Cereal are some INCREDIBLE SONGS.. Maybe the best in the last 2-3 years if not ..DEF ARGUABLE .

  • think

    @marty...Did you ready anything I wrote? Lol no, im saying od, section 80,good kid maad city were arguable the best PROJECTS in the years they came out...an that's a POPULAR opinion on these here blogs so im definitely not alone .but those are some great songs though..so an arguement definitely can be made

  • think

    @marty, exactly...and guess what? During that early drake run ALOT of people were saying he was the best an how he's better than wayne

  • MusicHead

    @marty mcfly DRAKE DID IT TOO .. It's just that man Kendrick came along lol .. So a new rapper can come for the taking it's just depends how great he is ... & Drake may have did it better than Kendrick but that's just cause he was hot as hell on top of that ..put Kendrick the nastiest SPITTIN human under the light of Lil Wayne during that time.. Kendrick gon be looked at as God of RAPPIN lol

  • think

    @marty, and im definitely not mad at you...I think your insecurity is what makes you think somebody is mad at you all the time lol im. Just stating my opinion,are you mad at me?

  • marty mcfly

    You bring up Illmatic but GKMC aint as dope as Illmatic and the flaw in your point is when Illmatic came out everybody did not say Nas was the best MC. Some said Nas was and alot more said Nas is dope but he aint the best because of one album. @MusicHead so those three songs are better then every other song in the last three years? Does it matter what artists I use in comparison with those songs? Is Jay Electronica not worthy enough to compare to the great Kendrick? Just asking

  • marty mcfly

    @MusicHead, you cant say Drake did it better then Kendrick because your whole point from the gate is that Kendrick is the best right? So why are you saying Drake did it better when I thought you were saying Kendrick is this and that?

  • think

    @marty, im not debating how dope they are compaered to each other im saying...on both cases when they dropped respectively....ALOT of people were calling them the best(debating your point that kendrick would be the first to become the best so qucick)...and if there is a flaw in my point..that isn't it...because alot of people also are saying kendrick ain't the best rite now...you being one of them...but in both cases an album or a few albums solidified an mc as the best rapper to MOST rap listeners

  • MusicHead

    @marty mcfly I'm sayin this..If Kendrick was to come out during the sane time Drake did but replaced Drake & was under Wayne's wing .. He really wud be lookin he became the best & yes Drake became the best the fast UNTIL KENDRICK CAME .. & FUCK JAY ELECTRONICA, HE DIPE BUT HOMIE IS TOOOOO INCONSISTENT WITH RELEASING MUSIC..So hell na due to lack of catalog tho Exhibit C is cold as hell.

  • marty mcfly

    @MusicHead, Id say Saigon's material in the last few years...

    The Invitation
    Enemies
    Preacher
    Oh Yeah our Babies
    Rap vs Real
    Blown Away
    The Game Changer
    War and Chaos
    Mr Cool
    etc... were just as dope if not better.

    @think, yeah whatever but there's still a difference between people saying Kendrick is the best and Kendrick actually being the best. If you gonna argue the point that Kendrick is the best then its gotta be some shit that goes beyond just talking, its gotta be some reality to it that make the claim add up. If I say Drake is the best at making hit songs in the last three years, it aint just my opinion cause its actual data thats gonna back that claim up. Kendrick has evidence of him being dope but being the best period? Way too early for that shit.

  • marty mcfly

    @MusicHead, now you talking in hypotheticals, either Kendrick did better then Drake or he didn't. If he didn't then all im saying is that best claim dont really work now does it? The best means the best, it dont mean a bunch of what ifs or shoulda wouldas

  • marty mcfly

    And Exhibit C and A and songs like The Announcement, Shiny Suit Theory, Jazzmataz, Ghost Of Christopher Wallace and Call Of Duty were better then those songs from Kendrick. Most of which came out with the last three years.

  • think

    @marty, well that's your opinion...kendricks been the most conistant in the past 3 years than everybody in my eyes...I don't need numbers to make a n arguement that a rapper is the "best" because me and you both know the best isn't based on numbers...I believe you said so yourself..so the drake point was a bad one because that deals with numbers..somebody saying kendrick is the best rite now is justified an it isn't too early for that...because ALOT of people think he's dominated as far as material for the past 3 years..you bringing up data is just you trying dodge that arguement by saying I have no numbers to prove it...when you don't need numbers to prove who's art is "better" only who's is more popular

  • marty mcfly

    Shit I like Curren$y's King Kong, both Audio Dopes, Showroom, Jet Life and Airborne Aquarium better then those songs from Kendrick as well. Now get mad

  • marty mcfly

    Nah you missed the point of why I brought up Drake but anyway I also said Saigon so I dont think I used Saigon as an example for his numbers. COMEONSON

  • MusicHead

    @marty mcfly well Kendrick is the best ...period. & he does has have the claim to back it up ..he beat Jay, Ye, Nas, & Cole for best rap lyricists & his claim is his albums Section80'& GKMC. & alot.. (Gettin tired of debating lol)

  • think

    @marty, ok you said siagon had a better run...well let me ask you this...if you DID think kendrick had the best projects consecutively 3 years straight..would you still think he isn't the best RITE NOW?...because if you say yes...than I would have to believe the ONLY reason your saying its "too early" for him to be considered the best rite now(which doesn't make sense, you don't need a long time period to be the current best at something)...is because you personally don't think his projects were that great an so you use the "its too early" point to try to make it seem like its impossible to be the current best in that time period...weren't you saying lupe was one the best after about 2 albums?

  • marty mcfly

    @think, you are saying Kendrick is the best first of all, you aint saying one of the best. The best to me is a clear statement, its either he's the best or he's not. The best is the best period and that shouldn't be hard to get to the bottom of. When I said in the last few years (the same amount of time you looking at Kendrick 2010 - 2013) Drake was the best at making hit songs, its not that im just giving you my opinion. Its something you can go find evidence of as being a statement that has earned credibility. The best is the best and either Kendrick is the best in REALITY or he's only the best in some peoples opinion. Its really that simple and yes Im a big fan of Lupe's but most times I make sure when I make a claim on about him that its actually true, I dont just throw shit out there. Before I start saying Lupe was "one of" the best, I made sure that he had already accomplished enough to give weight to the claim. I didn't just say he was this and that cause he got some clever lines.

  • think

    Isn't biggie crowned one of if no the best of all time by the rap community? How?..QUALITY OVER QUANTITY that's how...if you don't like kendricks music that's fine with me, but don't play the "its too early" game with me...because clearly rappers have been called the best with even less material than kendrick has ...period...and most people aren't saying kendricks the best of ALL TIME, just rite now...if you agree that's cool..but if you think its not a possibility because he ain't been out for long enough your jus mad because he's getting all this praise an you feel differently...sounds like hate to me...I definitely do feel young rappers like kendrick are a threat to alder niggas who prasie the legends cuz alot of his videos you constantly try to debate anyone who thinks he could be better than the greats at some point...well with YOUR logic, isn't it TOO early to say that?

  • marty mcfly

    Im done with it man but saying someone is the BEST, especially if you dont even wanna consider others that clearly have done more (before and during Kendricks career thus far) is just not the type argument you should stand behind. FIN

  • think

    @marty, that's your problem...best in reality or best in peoples opinions?? Its ALL opinion....ANY time you say "best"..it can be debated unless there is a clear definition of what BEST is in that subject...its ok to just "throw shit out there"...its called stating your opinion, as long as you back it up when asked to explain...which I did......you keep bringin up drake and talking "numbers"...when numbers don't judge who's has the best music...a "hit" is a specific thing.....all art is all subjective

  • marty mcfly

    Its not about this or that or Biggie or whatever its about whether or not Kendrick is thee best right now? If you saying Drake has done more then thats a problem because the best would mean Kendrick has done better making him the BEST. As far as Kendrick being a threat to anybody else? Real mothafucks dont look at talent and feel a threat. For the most part all the older MCs have shown Kendrick nothing but love and support so kill that bullshit. Whatever Kendrick eats dont make nobody else shit but him.

  • marty mcfly

    @think and again, several things that are said about hip hop artist go further then opinion. There are some things that can be found as being FACTS and Kendrick being the best MC then or now is not one of them.

  • think

    @marty..that is the arguement im very comfortable with standing behind...because im NOT considering what artist have done BEFORE..because my arguement isnt about BEFOREe...its about NOW...and.I AM considering what artist have done during his career...and I feel he's been the most consistant through that time period...if you feel differently..that's cool...just because I feel differently doesn't mean im "not considering" other srtist, you just can't handle the fact people have different opinions than you..an there fore should stay away from blogs..make sense rite?

  • marty mcfly

    As well as myself, I too wouldn't care if Kendrick came out rapping like the whole Wu Tang all in one MC. Matter fact I would say how dope it is but just cause I dont think Kendrick makes the BEST material in hip hip (then or now) that doesn't mean I feel some kinda way because again YOU are saying Kendrick is the best, im just not agreeing.

  • MusicHead

    This nigga Marty in denial lol .. Kendrick is God MC right now. Nuffsaid.

  • crackadon

    y'all writin' essays over this shit

    straight up loser-mentality

    you ain't getin paid to ramble n rant on this site

    get yr priorities straight, rap fan-boys

  • think

    @marty...its not your just "not agreeing" with me..couldn't be the case cuz almost every reply I've said its cool you feel differently...but you continue to say irrelevant reasons as to why its not possible someone can be the current best rapper in the time period he has...completely dodging my jordan exampl whcih CLEARLY shut down your arguement a long time ago...therefore you leave me no choice but to feel you have an another motive for debating this..and that's most likely your hatred for the love you feel he SHOULDN'T be getting...that's called hate

  • 1

    Co-sign Think

  • think

    @marty, and I think you didn't understand what I was saying, I was talking about older niggas like YOU lol the fans of the jay z's, nas's...the ones who get defensive everytime somebody like kendrick or j cole is brought up saying they could possibly out do those guys. ..and when did I say drake did more...he mite have more material..but kendrick had BETTER material in that time period

  • think

    In my opinion of course

  • think

    @marty...I also notice how you dodged my question when I asked how can you say a kendrick lamar or j cole can't out do those legends over time? Isnt it "too early" to say that? Based on YOUR logic?...if not your judging by the music they do have out rite? So if you can make the claim they can't surpass the greats based on that then its ok to say someone is the best rite now based on the music they have out "rite now"..and if you disagree with that I think you have anoter reason for down playing kendrick and that's envy...notice how you said you were done a while ago but continued commenting lol face it...you can't accept other opinions..

  • MusicHead

    Think won with that last comment lmaooo ..never seen nobody beat Marty like that

  • think

    You can't accept other peoples opinions, speak as if your opinions are fact..and get angry when people call you out on it..but then you continue to LIVE on 2dopeboyz comment section...you my friend must have a miserable life

  • 1

    Done fucked marty's whole day up :D

  • marty mcfly

    LOL you still talking about my opinion when opinion is all you giving with your Kendrick makes the BEST material now and in the last three years. You imply Kendrick has done everything better then everybody else but when you get the time to go look at facts you gonna see different. In the last three years Kendrick did not make the best material, he did not outdo everybody else and he has not been the most consistent etc.. Now you can go back in forth about my opinion or you can just go look at all the hip hop artists that have been putting out material the last three years and see for yourself. If there are several artists that carry just as much weight as Kendrick and more then and dont see how you bitchin to me about it. Thats not my fault homie thats just reality.

  • marty mcfly

    AND you mothafus got the nerve to say that not only is he top 5 now but also imply that he's better then the top 5. FOH. Now you can dance around whatever you meant or whatever you think you were trying to say but its not like you presenting facts you just throwing out opinions. Are there artists that have sold more in the last few years? YES, are there artists with more singles that charted? YES are there better lyricists that have put out music in the last few years including last year. YES, the last point was opinion, the others can be proven as FACTS. Get Mad Bitches

  • think

    @marty..not realiity..just your opnion which im cool with....(said this a million times)...nothing factually has to be looked at when judging art....no ones bitching but you marty lol..that's actually what you're known for doing..like its probably going to be known to anybody who reads these comments that I shut down your whole argument...now you can act as if im the one who's got problems other peoples opinions..but the proof is all over this post and any other post you've ever posted on lol so go ahead and pretend you've proved everybody wrong and have a good one

  • marty mcfly

    Are there better albums then GKMC? HELL YEAH

  • marty mcfly

    Did Drake sell more records then Kendrick in the last three years? Yes or NO, so how is that just my opinion? Isnt that just the truth? Ok then and again its NOT about the numbers its about what is just a reality.

  • think

    Notice numbers only matter to marty sometimes lol....those "numbers" can be proven...but you can't prove that means he's not the best..that's just another opinion....so now all of a sudden the charts and record sales matter in the convo of who's the best?? Lol how predictable marty...ill just wait until you try to prove somebody that somebody isn't the best based on those things to laugh lol wont even call you out...I could go to old post of yours an point it out...but I don't see the point...you bodied YOURSELF at this point

  • think

    @marty, yes he sold more than kendrick....but does that mean his misc is better? Yes or no?...THAT'S the opinion im talking about..selling more records doesn't make his music better...you know this...don't play dumb...though your pretty good at it lol...you bringing up numbers in a debate of who's made the best music is irrlelevant

  • think

    Your only bringin up numbers because its safe, you know that's the only thing that can be proven as fact...but that's ok because I can find an opinion in the fact your stating...and you don't need facts to debate who's the best...because that in itself can't be proven as fact unless there's a set definiton of what the best means in that area...the people saying kenddrick is the best don't need "facts"(just strong arguements, which have been made)...because this comment section is for "opinions"...that's why it drives you crazy lol

  • marty mcfly

    How you talking about facts but you give none? What did you say about Kendrick that can show proof that he's the best? If I say Curren$y is more consistent then Kendrick thats not JUST opinion, there is some reality there. If I say Mac Miller's debut did better then Section 80 is that just opinion or is the some truth there? LOL, that was fucked up but I coulda used Rick Ross, Wiz, shit I coulda used Nicki Minaj and I can show areas that Kendrick did not dominate those artists the last three years and thats not just opinion fools. Yeah Kendrick had a great 2012, I still think Lupe had a better year and 2 Chainz and Drake had a stronger impact in multiple areas but dont be mad at me for just telling you some shit you can go find out yourself.

  • MusicHead

    Think is just tearing the great Marty McFly up tho lmao damn. Never seen someone shit him down so well. Every champ takes their L's.

  • think

    You could show those artist dominated as far as numbers, but you can't prove they dominated as far as quality...that's why your arguement is irrelevant...how am I "talking facts"...im pointing out what your saying..stop making shit up to make it seem like you have a point lol...you saying currency is more consistant would only be factual of QUANTINTY, now QUALITY its debatable...if you say mac millers album did better than kendricks that's fact...but saying is it a "better" album is debatable...its ok that there are "ares" kendrick didn't "dominate"...because im talking bout the area of "music quality" which alot of people agree he did dominate..im not mad at you, your mad at me for proving you wrong..."impact" and "other areas" are irrelevant to what im saying an this whole convo..therfore your arguement is irrelevant...get over it

  • marty mcfly

    AGAIN FOR THE 2OTH TIME, ITS NOT JUST ABOUT THE NUMBERS but you cant say that I dont bring up any facts and then once I mention numbers get mad when you realize thats an area that you cant win. You wanted facts so dont act like a bitch when you get them. Another fact, Drake won best hip hop album at the grammys. Is that also opinion based on votes and the grammy panel? Yes but did Drake win the award? Yes and thats a FACT not just opinion. Good look on Kendrick doing that same. Swimming Pools did work but Poetic Justices got a long way to go.

  • marty mcfly

    FACT IS FACT, you can call it opinion but if you go check what im saying and it turns out to be true, what you want me to do? You can do all this shit about quality if you want but im just referring to cold hard facts not you subjective musical tastes. Reality is just reality now go suck a dick and die faggot.

  • think

    Facts pertaining to music quality, you gave me none, because they don't exist, that's why you lose...drake winning that award is fact...but his album actually having the best music on it is opinion...again, that's why you lose lol get over it

  • MusicHead

    GKMC didn't make the dead line to be nominated but I'm sure he will win next Grammy awards... If not the the Grammy's is really forever un-credible .

  • think

    @marty, lol you mad...thats rite...your reffereing to "cold hard facts" that don't have anything to do with the arguement....funny because this comment section is for "subjective musical taste" ...its jus more to you because you get mad when people have different opinion than you, and even more mad when you're proven wrong, lol look at you calling me a faggot and telling me to suck a dick..im not even going to come back to that because about 100 % sure you wouldn't say that to my face. If this was a face to face discussion..those "cold hard facts" don't prove anything as far as actual music quality, good try though

  • marty mcfly

    Life Is Good, Jesus Piece, Food & Liquor 2, A Dream Deferred, and after further review GSNT2 >>> GKMC and btw of course I would tell you to go suck a dick to your face bitch. What the fuck you gonna do, you immortal nigga? FOH

  • marty mcfly

    Drakes first two albums, multiple platinum. Kendricks? Not so much. Is that the facts too you K Dot stan? Ok then

  • lmao

    Lmao martys ego is not allowing him to admit he lost bad lol this is hilarious......think crushed his arguement lmao hang it up marty, you lost

  • think

    @Marty, yes that's a fact.... now give me one that proves drakes albums was better than kendricks? Ill wait.your dodging the "quality" debate which what this whole arguement was about lol you have some audacity an will do anything to make it look like you have a good point....oh an foreal? Do you live in new york by any chance? That definitely can be arranged....nah im not immortal, im just most likely gonna knock ya head off lol where you live at tough guy?

  • bad kid worst city

    @marty Mcfly you just all Wrong mam there is no formula to be the Best !!
    Kanye west became the best from 2 albums,first with college dropout he show that he rap dope without be a super thug like fifty an resurect the TCQ vibes and confirm he was the best with the best sophomore album ever with late registration since then he didnot put out a classic album .... jay-z become number one many times first time in 1996 with his first album then after in 1998 with hardknock life then again in 2001 with blueprint and i can go on !!!
    LIL WAYNE became the BEST before the CARTER 3 arround dedication number 2....
    NAS became number one arround is first LP a 10 Songs well know Named ILLMATIC.
    so yes Kendrick Lamar is the actual number one hiphop artist right now!!!
    you want songs that noboby have lets go !!

    ADHD is the first song that talk about the generation of the 80's without makeup!!! why we rae so fucked up and in the sametime we live with it !!

    Tammy song is a song talking about girls point of few of a couple relation without talk about femal as hoes or bitch but show why most of the times its man whofuckedup relations !!

    the GKMC album with is narrative way of doing it is a masterpiece !!!
    Swmming pool a hit song a club song talking about struggle with alchool without make the bottle something great !!! nobody as that !!

    heaven and hell from OD !!!

    cartoon and cereal !!!

    and Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst
    nobody have songs like that right now !!!

  • bad kid worst city

    drake is a good banger maker but its hard to have some substance with him !!
    and sells will never be a fact about being best rapper !!!
    bestrapper his about lyrics and flow

    now we can do something else compare the best from there respective periode and you will see that allthe number one rapper are not exactly the same some are fare from the other because they do it multiple times other because they was rapper and producer !!! other because they open new lyrics perspective like rakim or nas for exemple

  • mez

    Wayne is definitely not the best rapper alive, but I swore he was as he was all I listened to in my teen years.

    I just miss his sound and music so much. Carter II was classic to me, and the rest were dope too. He had Dedication 1 and 2, Drought 3 and please dont forget all those Empire mixtapes and leaked songs. He probably had over a 1000 leaked songs when he was really grindin, and about 40-60% were pure fire. (Thats still more than your favorite rappers catalogue) In my opinion though his best music was from those leaked Carter 3 sessions (Drought is Over 2) that had I Know the future, Feel Like Dying, Diamonds & Girls, etc.

  • the realest

    damn i missed this debate. a nigga was tired tho. knock'd out at like 6.

    ".. Iight 1st fuck anyone who complains about grammar..Im not in school ..the hell? 2nd Wayne has had a better career ..his albums are slightly better & when they were both in they primes & u comparing primes .. Wayne bar for bar was better than T.I. that’s the truth & you know it..Wayne didn’t blow up for no reason. Homie put in work, was consistent, SHITTED ON NIGGAS & made one of the greatest runs"

    ^ that was the realest comment i seen so far and was dead at that cap'd up "SHITTED ON NIGGAS" cuz thats exactly what wayne did at that time.. shit on niggaz lol. every nigga at that. can we even name a nigga during that time wayne didnt shit on? unless they didnt work together or murk they beat. i mean seriously, even jay lol. and that dr. carter was something genius. its funny how the ppl who so-called "win" the debates, be completely oblivious to the obvious. that shit cray lmao.

  • the realest

    oh and about bitches nitpicking about grammer, a wise man once told me "correct and proper grammer only gives off the perception of knowing what you are talking about." thats why i take real and substance over w.e. bullshit ppl try to spew out.

  • the realest

    Kanye was making fun of Wayne. You are all too dumb to understand that. Listen to the way he says “rapper.” He’s joking about the ridiculous concept of being a “hot rapper” in the first place, and the way MTV ranks “rappers.” Of course he would put himself first on the list if the list meant anything more than appealing to a wide audience and making hit singles. When was the last time he did anything with Wayne? Use your heads.
    MikeWillHateIt said this on March 6th, 2013 at 2:23 am

    ^ damn that nigga reached far as hell on that one. niggaz jusr designed his album cover. sit down.

  • the realest

    @marty…Did you ready anything I wrote? Lol no, im saying od, section 80,good kid maad city were arguable the best PROJECTS in the years they came out…an that’s a POPULAR opinion on these here blogs so im definitely not alone .but those are some great songs though..so an arguement definitely can be made

    think said this on March 6th, 2013 at 3:12 am

    ^ lmao that nigga either'd himself. that niggaz said a popular opinion on these BLOGS. thats the whole sha-bam with kendrick. hes just a blog internet rapper.. still. just like jcole and the rest of tde.

  • the realest

    " the crazy thing is .. HE HAS BECAME THE BEST THIS FAST LMAO.. It’s really the honest truth.. It’s called being dominant & standing out no matter what song u are .."

    ^ nigga that can be said for wayne, but who has kendrick bodied other than tde, asap rocky, drake, and 2 chainz lol. damn yo, fall back from that one.

  • the realest

    my whole thing with kendrick is, wtf is kendrick lamar. like for real. wtf is he talking about. i understand he got some wordplay. overrated wordplay if you asked to be considered great. to me when i think of great wordplay i think of nas, jay, wayne, andre 3k, eminem and big pun. as far as wordplay only. and kendrick aint fucking with none of them in they prime. and thats a muthafuckin period.

    as far as his style. the nigga is weird. he always gotta do some weird shit with his voice or someshit i guess to catch the ppls attension. his flow be erratic at times. i recently watched a big sean interview wit the breakfast club and dude made a great point (that he probley heard from kanye as gem and scooped it up) that you can fuck up the art by over doing shit. jay-z understood that EARLY. with music, your voice is also an instrument. the technical rappers dont understand that. you have to flow, and find the pockets within the beat to spit your verse. i mean i can respect kendrick if i was just reading his verses, but this is music and i gotta listen. and that lil niggaz flow is gabage. and not to mention since he got pimp'd out by jimmy ivoine and dr. dre, that nigga been looking OVER CORNY. and i mean those caps. i just wanna look at his contract one time and see what deal these "conscious" rappers signed. cuz dude is looking too much like a puppet to be considered conscious and thats just the truth.

    its funny cuz the street niggaz are actually the most business savy, owning their own labels and doing shit independently or only distribution deals/branding and making money and getting they ppl out the bottom of society. (which is why thats all they talk about, cuz that is some phenomenal shit), but the so called conscious are always getting pimp'd out and cry and compare about how shady the music business is bcuz of the fucked up contract THEY signed. well for one, the industry is just like the streets. so street niggaz know how to work it to their advantage. but its the head-in-the-clouds nerds that are probably destined to be a lawyer or politician or advocate to the community, that are so arrogant that they think they can change the world with their "music" and everything else is gabage and everyone needs to listen to only them. oh and they wanna be paid like jay-z for it too. so much for being humble.

    in all seriousness, its niggaz like tde thats the problem with todays youth. the entitlement era. everything should be given to them. if you not finna go to school and get a trade, or work, or risk your freedom and life hustling narcotics, what makes you think you should make more than doctors and teachers simply off your wordplay? huh? ol spoiled ass brats. if you all about the art like you say you are then be about it. way back in the day you couldnt eat off art unless you was some prolific shit like da vinci. the artists didnt do it for the money, they did it for the art.

    to me, my opinion is all about the struggle. i got the same respect for the nigga who avoided all the bullshit and traps young black males gotta go thru and got an education and made it out the bottom, as the hustler who did the same. end of the day. i look at kendrick and tde like, yall dont do shit. from a business side, how can i profit off of you? you cant make hit singles like THAT. swimming pools was his one and only and the song itself was boof, and it took interscope coughing up bread to get it in the first place from t-minus. no interscope and kendrick has no single. yall not filling the clubs up with cartoons and cereal to earn you 60,000 a show. and your story isnt compelling enough to just eat off that. like nas is. but this aint my place. this is an internet blog and all the ppl who frequent this site almost all share the same opinion. but hey, what do i know. i just wanted to say my shit and be out. peace.

  • the realest

    complain*

  • Cuvano

    Wayne was never great never had one dope album I could NEVER get into him. Dedication 2 was pretty dope and the carter 2 had some joints but he is terrible 96 percent of the time. When niggas was listening to wayne i was listening to royce, elzhi, blu and joell n shit....big sean is madddddd corny hes like the metrosexual modern day version of mase

  • Scottie

    TONIGHT I FEEL IMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMORATL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MusicHead

    @the realest thanks man for appreciating real shit .. On the Wayne comment. Now the Kendrick stuff ..idk why u aint seeing the light yet..but u will .. Been done debating catch me the be next posts..ill be there to comment hopefully ..but if not ohwell ..igotta life lol & tryna be better than these rappers we talk about lol

  • marty mcfly

    Wayne was once a dope rapper but there will always be somebody out there who was better at the time and Wayne is not bar for bar better then T.I at all period. When Wayne was on his mixtape run you had the whole Dip Set, the whole G Unit including Game dropping The Documentary and you had Kanye dropping his albums and people were seeing the first signs of Lupe and there were other dope projects out at the time. Wayne is not just automatically the greatest because of that time period. He has an argument there yes but it's definitely not a clear win. or an easy win. Now Kendrick is aiight and he's a good MC but imo (your gonna be mad) lyrically, wordplay wise Curren$y is better. Kendrick in my opinion is not number one just because he's young (Im a a fan of young cats like Joey Bada$$ btw) or its too early or whatever. He's not number one cause he dont have enough big songs on the board yet thats why. He dont have enough classic songs and albums on the board yet thats why and cosign 85% of what the realest said about his shit cause really his bars is just not that groundbreaking. You people talking about all it takes is one or two albums and you can be the best or the goat just off that one project? I see what you "mean" by that but the problem is if such an album were to come out and you looked at overall stats across the board, one album would not be enough to become the greatest. Thats not hate, its common sense. Even if a album had ten classic singles on it that all went platinum it would still be artists out there who've done more of the course of their overall career. The Documentary, GRODT, College Dropout etc... all did better then GKMC and none of those debuts made those MCs the best or the greatest just of their first albums.

  • marty mcfly

    and yes I read correctly, I said Curren$y got better wordplay then your boy. Feel the pain LOL

  • marty mcfly

    YOU read correctly...

  • MusicHead

    @think get this nigga Marty bruh .. He talkin that non sense again ...sayin Curren$y got anything over Kendrick is blasphemy & Wayne was better than T.I. like I said yes there were great albums during Wayne run but Wayne's albums was THE BEST AT THOSE TIMES .. Yea Kanye was dropping classics but he was ARTISTS not no MC ..he wasn't like T.I., Wayne & 50 & Jay. The thing is this with the total of catalog & combination of how good each project was he was the best overall & face it be honest..u just like TI more.. Even TI wud say he wasn't better than Wayne overall. You really losin alot of credibility @ marty mcfly .

  • DirtyRotten

    This list is a joke.

    There's a difference between the 'hottest' rappers, and the most skilled rappers. Nas' delivery, lyrics, and flow surpassed anything else released in 2012. Bar for bar, lyric for lyric, Nas is still the best rapper alive. Unfortunately, people hear but don't listen.

  • lmaoo

    marty is a troll...dont pay any mind to him, nobody said kendrick is the goat...just the best rite now, hes just trying to provoke people because hes a loser and lives to argue with people online..dont fall for it!! lol

  • marty mcfly

    When Wayne put out Carter 1, that same year...

    College Dropout
    Streets Disciple
    Purple Haze
    Urban Legend
    Pretty Toney - Ghostface
    Kiss Of Death - Al Qaeda Jada
    The New Danger - Mos Def
    The Tipping Point - Roots
    A Longer Hot Summer - Masta Ace
    Encore - Em

    all came out that same year so it is not certain that Wayne was the best

    2005 when Wayne put out C2...

    Late Registration
    Be
    The B Coming
    The Minstrel Show
    The Documentary
    Thug Motivation
    The Massacre
    S.o.n.o.g.r.a.m

    also came out that same year so it is not for certain Wayne was the best there either.

  • marty mcfly

    @lmaoo, nah people went alot further then rite now. Yes they mentioned right now and yeah nobody said Kendrick is the goat (but they are saying the greatest) but if it was just about right now, all these comments wouldn't be here. A couple fools are saying or implying that Kendrick is the best PERIOD and even bringing up top 5 in comparison to back that up. After a bunch of other comments then @think specified the years 2010 to now but most of the comments imply a greater position then just rite now. If it was just about right now or 2012 its no way all these comments would be here. When you see fools mention veterans and classic albums from hip hop legends to back up the claim about Kendrick being the best, they talking about the best period end of story. They tryna angle it another way but read between the lines. They saying Kendrick is the best MC overall period. I disagree

  • marty mcfly

    If you think Kendrick is "the hottest" from 2012 then I been said already thats cool but obviously it went further then that. Mostly just with @think and MusicHead but the overall premise of their argument is that after GKMC Kendrick is now the best MC. Ummm NO

  • d

    kanye is the greatest rapper of all time to me and lil wayne hasn't been decent since carter3

  • d

    the greatest rappers of all time are kanye, em, pac, nas, lupe, biggie, jay z,and pusha

  • d

    and why is kid cudi not on the list

  • Licks

    Tell me why you mad son ! Tell me why you mad !! (mad rapper)
    Kanye is certainly getting that marketing right for his next album.
    I guess we have a lot more ye west madness to come before that album drops in the 4th quarter.. Personally i cant get enuff. This shit is like wrestling ..

  • kanye east

    "Plus ‘lucky I ain’t have Jay drop him from the team’, as well as ‘my girl is a star all off a home movie’ are two of the most corniest lines of all time…of all time!"

    Nah, that goes to Luda for "It's a parade, Macys"

  • B@SICS

    Kanye is a fucking clown and he makes my city look bad. How can Chicago STAND UP when this idiot and his cry baby/baffoonery antics keep knocking us down? Shut the fuck up and do ya music thing fam.