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  • Yeezus

    Dame is contradicting himself. Standing up for Russell when he's not standing up for himself, but Flex can't do the same for Joie.

  • marty mcfly

    Dame such a bitter hater man. I know a mothafucka just like Dame to. A nigga that physically looks like Dame even. Ima keep this story short but here goes. Long time ago there was this dude who had issues in the street and other people would squash his beef for him. He got kicked out his own house and didnt have a car and one of his friends let him borrow a car and put five thousand dollars in his pocket at the time. Just a few years later this guy became one the head managers at Bank Of America. The nigga got money coming outta his ears... All this guy does now is hate on everybody else and talk shit about other people and they money. The person who let him borrow the car and gave him money back n the day didnt even ask to be paid back because the person did it out the kindness of their heart. The moral is some people are just assholes, even after they get money and they just dont give a fuck about the people that helped them when they were down and out. Dame blames everybody else for shit but never blames himself.

  • Josh Morse

    this sort of back and forth seems to be synonymous w/ the music business in general, and a lot of times its hard to distinguish between sides and peoples motives/ideals; but when a guy like Dame is challenged after all his ups & downs in this game, its really hard for me NOT to hear what he's sayin' and find truth in his prospective. Even at face value, Dame still has logical reasoning and factual variables to back up his opinion and stance in a debate or even an accusation on someone else's choices/decisions in a game that Dame holds juice in. Dame kept a great poise in his explanation of the situation and its events, and also had information to back up most of his claims/etc. Funk Flex IS under employment, and with that said, isn't really in a position to defend the opposing side of his employment or even relation/acquaintance to said employment. The "culture vulture" term seemingly does have a very relevant place in this game and I'd have to say such a mindset or motive would really rub me the wrong way too.

    • marty mcfly

      Yeah but he's talking about Flex working for Hot97? Like really, thats why he's going at Flex? For having a job? He wants to call other people "culture vultures"? Really? Like people can feel how they wanna feel about Flex but dude put his work in for this culture. Sometimes you just gotta respect the work. Flex aint just talking, like he actually adds on to the culture with what he does as a Dj. If we comparing the work between Dame and Flex? Flex is much more valuable to the culture then Dame is or will ever be.

      • Josh Morse

        Oh its definitely undeniable that Flex represents for the culture and everything it stands for; but thats not even what Dame is arguing or saying. His term "culture vulture" IS relevant tho, and its hard to relate w/ someone who's working more for the $ and less about the actual spirit and love for the game; which I'm also sure happens VERY often in the business environment of the Hip-Hop game. Regardless if it was even necessary for Dame to open his mouth about the conflict w/in the culture (as he's actually adding to that very topic), its still is unarguable that there's plenty of grinning faces sitting behind their desks seeing dollar signs for the wrong reasons. Honestly the whole radio game falls in that category for me already; but it seriously seems like Flex is just "flexin" for his superiors, just throwin' aimless shots at Dame and not even debating about the real topic or issue that fueled the whole initial outburst. Point blank Flex IS ON PAYROLL and literally can ONLY defend one side of this thing; otherwise he'd be canned the very next instant!! It's irrelevant to hear Flex out before he said a word, cuz he undoubtedly would not be able to provide a completely UNBIAS opinion. Business is business, and always will be; but it does come down to the people sometimes, and I'd want to stand for the people who do it more for the love. What does the term "Sore Winner" have to do wit it; thats fucking ridiculous. Then Flex wants to make it a "Race" thing too and continue to throw shots about nonsense. The fact remains, there's prolly Plenty of Donald Sterling-type-business-heads in the game and always will be; but who wants to play for a team where the bosses don't stand for the same ideals. Dame has a mouthpiece and uses it all the time clearly; but he's backed uncountable of nobel causes and this particular argument I have to agree with.

        • marty mcfly

          At 1:01:15 -25, Dame says "I never subscribed to the music business, Rocafella was SOMEBODY ELSE'S perspective.... Now Dame calls other people "culture vultures", so you got culture and vulture so tell me, what is Dame then? You wanna flip on Flex like he's a culture vulture? Really? Ok

          • marty mcfly

            Dame is one of the biggest "culture vultures" Hip Hop has ever done business with.

        • marty mcfly

          Flex probably broke a million hip hop records in Hip Hop culture. Dame wants to go at Flex? FOH

          • Josh Morse

            Again regardless of how shady Dame's business ethic is, the point remains that he ain't even coming at Flex about any of the issue at hand; and he definitely isn't labeling Flex as a "Culture Vulture" or coming at him about his role in the industry. He's just pointing out the obvious about Flex's position and how Flex is coming to the defense of people he shouldn't if he cared more about hip-hop and less about pleasing/defending the higher-ups. If Dame is participating in the same sort of bad business that he's referring to, oh well and some times it takes one to know one; that doesn't change anything about the point he's making. If you ask me there's no shortage of people w/ their hands in a cookie jar that isn't theirs. Its pretty obvious that this is a senseless argument all around; which makes it even more ridiculous that Flex would feel the need to speak up, cuz like I said its clear that Flex is only able to speak on one side of the situation regardless of how he might actually think or feel about it. Ok so Dame and everyone else who's name has come up would be considered as Dame's idea of "culture vulture", and honestly thats how I see most all these big label types before the term surfaced anyway; but thats every bit as much relevant and true as Flex's affinity for pouring fuel on hip-hop conflict as well. So for him to all of a sudden come to the defense of people who practice the same sort of shit that he's ranting about Dame doing is just completely redundant. Yeah Dame has made plenty of shitty moves; but just because he's calling the kettle black, doesn't mean Flex is supposed to chime in and act like Joie or Cohen or who-the-fuck-ever are doing right by their actions in the hip-hop business!! Dame is everything you pointed out; but in that same light and respect, Flex is a loud-mouth firestarter who can be even more bias then the damn hip-POP station that he works for. I have every bit of respect for Flex's role in pumping records and artists for the last however-many years; but he's also done his fair share of force feeding the public bullshit via his cereal-box radio station job! Tomato, tomoto; "your shady" "no, YOUR shady" "no, your the shadiest" ...shut the fuck up!! If Flex played as much good music as he does run his loud ass mouth about nonsense while we all wait for the next record to start, then maybe most of us wouldn't be turning the radio OFF and resorting to our own playlists.

          • marty mcfly

            Nah, you read what I said but you dont hear me though. I think people like Dame so much that they not even really listening to his own words cause if they did they would see how this dude is a total contradiction and is completely outta pocket for speaking on certain people. Some of these people he calls "culture vultures" are the gears in the machine that pushes hundreds of different artists every year. Something that Dame hasn't been doing for the last decade, with exception to Curren$y... and that didnt work out well between the two either.

          • marty mcfly

            another thing is alot of those culture vultures (not all but a few), took they money and put it back into the culture in one way or another. Dame took his money and pocketed it and ran over to "other cultures" to invest in businesses that look down on hip hop culture.

  • ear2ear

    Dame Dash actually has a point here and also yes Dame has an effed up business side as well. But he can at least hit you with facts unlike Funkmaster Flex and he's pretty straightforward. I find him believable. Flex should have evolved at some point over the last 20 years. Dame's point isn't that he works for someone. It is that he's a tool and is 46 years old and is as immature as a 20 year old. For Flex a grown ass man who says he doesn't have a friendship with Cohen to go at Dame with so much passion because he went at Cohen, who is a unanimous vulture and one of the people who raped hip-hop, there's something wrong.

    • marty mcfly

      That logic means we're knocking Flex for working 25 years? Anyway you wanna slice it thats crazy. Flex is 46 and still working at the station he helped build this culture with. Dame is talking about it so who's really putting in work and who's just talking. You think Dame is giving you facts? COMEONNOW. Facts is dude fucked up business and relationships from The Roc to Curren$y and has accepted more from "Culture vultures" then Flex ever has. Flex started in the streets Djing and making mixtapes. Its just no way Dame can go at Flex like that. Yes Flex is 46 and been breaking records for almost 30 years from a few hundred thousand different artists. Dame might have been a big part of the Roc building but in comparison to Flex in this culture, Dame is like a raindrop in a ocean of work Flex has put in every week for decades now. The reason Flex does this music shit is because he loves it, dont get it twisted. Dame been eating off this culture for years now and he to has been on more payrolls then a whole record label himself.

      • ear2ear

        No it's not. It's how he works that we're knocking. I'm not defending Dame Dash, he's done a lot of dirt. But Flex is such a bum. I feel bad for New Yorkers who have to listen to him get in his own way while he plays music. Isn't the job of a radio DJ to set the mood of his program through music? He's just a big gossiper. I visited NY once and this guy was talking about DJ Envy and his wife and Charlemagne the God's dad etc etc. It's sad that a 46 year old man still gets down like that on some petty shit. Seriously, there is little difference right now as of today between what Funkmaster Flex does and say what someone like VladTV does. Flex is like the Jay Leno of DJs. It's all just trash.

        • marty mcfly

          But your still knocking the WORK though. When you knock Flex for working at Hot97, you still gotta use the word "work". You know what Flex does and its dropping them records from NY and all over the country. That is a major part of the culture. Thats a major chess piece right there. You cant just knock that man like that. You saying Flex is a bum? Homie, Dame went from a hundred million dollar record company to willing selling his interest to Def Jam to being broke. How many classic hip hop records and anthems has Flex dropped? Them 60min Flex albums and tapes from back in the day helped turn these NY rappers to legends fam. You just cant knock that in any capacity. Even to this day, every time Flex gets on the mic and behind them turntables, hip hop culture is alive and well and coming through a million speakers everyday. What has Dame been doing for the culture in the last ten years other then fumbling the ball business wise on Curren$y career? Has he even put up the bread for that DipSet reunion album yet? I doubt it. Dame is just as much an asshole has Flex is sometimes but Dame was a Roc soldier, Flex been a hip hop soldier for the whole culture for decades now. Dame said himself in this interview "I like to humiliate people"... Flex for the most part dont just come out his mouth unless somebody say his name first. Dame is not in any position to speak on Flex cause Dame IS a culture vulture, Flex lives the culture because is actually way of living is based on one of its elements. DJing

          • ear2ear

            No I'm not man. How are you gonna put words in my mouth? Haha. What I'm saying is Flex loves to promote beef, he loves gossiping and those two things shouldn't be synonymous with a 46 year old man. And let's be real, someone could fill up Flex's spot really fast. If Flex is a pioneer of hip-hop, well so is DJ Khaled. What are we even talking about right now? Haha.

          • marty mcfly

            Flex aint promoting no beef dude. If anything Flex's business relationships in hip hop is way better then Dame's ever been. On top of that Flex (and Khaled) are way more valuable to the culture and have done more for the culture overall then Dame has. You say someone could fill Flex's spot but at least he has a spot in Hip Hop. Dame does not period.

          • marty mcfly

            Oh and yes even Khaled is worth more to Hip Hop then Dame. People ask what does he do? but what does Dame do? Is he putting any money behind Jet Life, DipSet, Kush God? Or is he just talking? Dame was robbing Jay outta millions of dollars, Jay caught him and said its cool but started distancing himself from Dame, then Dame ran over to Russell and tried to make Def Jam an accomplice to Dame's shady ways after Dame was taken money from The Rocs budget (Jays pockets) and popping up in Killa's videos sending shots at Jay. Def Jam bought Dame out and then gave Dame's part of the Roc back over to Jay outta respect. Checkmate. Now Dame has no place in Hip Hop and is mad that The Roc(Nation) is still in action and he aint on the ship anymore.

    • marty mcfly

      Flex's evolution was InFlexWeTrust.Com.

  • Hood Oracle

    Flex was roasting Dame, DAMN

  • Guest

    why flex and dame saying pause before everything they say..lol

  • uncleham

    Guess Jay never taught Dame how to move in a room full of vultures