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  • hiiipower

    yg 400 and gangsta gibbs on a track would be dope...as long as jeezy not on it.

    • leumas01

      YG can't touch Gibbs.

    • http://thatmorbidshit.tumblr.com/ FuckYouPayMe

      You'd rather hear a nigga that can't rap(YG) over a nigga that CAN rap in Jeezy?
      Some of you people(you) take this "real" shit too far.
      Just cause you've been in prison long enough to have fucked a Suzy doesn't somehow make you a better rapper.

      But you can tell Jeezy shook to say any real out of pocket shit regarding the Gibbs situation. I'm surprised Jeezy didn't say some shit like "Our personal statements weren't in congruence and I wish him the best in his future endeavors".

      • hiiipower

        haha i dont think all 3 can really rap. i just wanna hear it. i like yg and gibbs, but only cuz of mustard and madlib production.

      • wutangshogun

        Not to mention if you're looking for real, Jeezy is one of the most real high profile rappers out there. One of the only that were first signed to BMF's record label. He actually started out just managing to make money until someone threw him in a booth. He's said it a million times, the dude's more businessman than rapper

        • willj

          Cept he rolls with the snitch who took down BMF... Not that real.

    • B,IK.

      It exists, Every City, Bonus Track, on BFK.

  • Jojoba

    this is how you handle a diss track... jeezy just straight up said 'the world didn't want you' thats so cold

    • Black Crime Rate

      If that's true what he's saying, it's only because Gibbs been blackballed in the industry.

      It's the type of thing that happens to real motherfuckers cause we all know the industry wants some puppet ass artists they can control and tell what to do.

      It only makes Gibbs' story stronger and confirms how authentic he really is. Fake ass niggas (like Jeezy etc.) be damned!

      • Dat nigga

        Fuck outta here. That nigga music is average. Music ain't for everybody just bcuz everybody has access to make it.

        • SonSon

          nah doggie Pinata is above average.

      • anon

        Gibbs tapes are fire BUT you can only carry dead weight so long. Currency and other had to jump and are better for it.

        • http://actordas.wordpress.com HollyBlackWood

          Some rappers aren't meant for the majors ... when the time is right they'll come to you OR when you go to them down the road the offers will be presented ... Im not sure of the deal Spitta has or had with Warner Bros but he got that off the IndieGrind ... so long as Gibbs stays true to his core his time will come ... I can see Jeezys angle but if thats the case, then you should've played more to his fan base ... Gave them a Gibbs/Jeezy Mixtape ... Gave em a feature on a one of your standout singles, if he did that idk, I can't remember but "jumping ship isn't always a bad move" like the bro "anon" said

      • wutangshogun

        Blackballed by the industry... the industry wants puppet rappers... when are rap fans going to take responsibility for "the industry"? the reason Gibbs isn't successful is because of his fans. It's a free market - I like Gibbs' music but I sure as hell didn't buy the album, I bet most Gibbs fans in this comment section didn't either. The industry wants puppet rappers because that's what people buy. You want him to be successful, buy enough of his albums so that he tops the chart his debut week like he would if he was Jeezy.

        • Black Crime Rate

          He is successful though dumbass.

          • wutangshogun

            Which is it? He's being blackballed or he's successful? get your story straight. He's not even close to as successful as jeezy

        • jamminonthe1

          i listened before i bought the album but i bought it solely because of that sticker on the front, fuckin g shit

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            I did the same LOL!

        • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

          I agree with some of what you said, but It is not just that, he still does not have a large following. His fan base is getting bigger, he just needs to keep on pushin. I bought all his albums, so I definitely believe in his brand. Jeezy has had solid promotion not only from the radio, but from famous Ad industries that push him on the streets and on TV. A lot of these underground artist are not going to have that type of promotion, only they're core fans will know and people the fans put on to his music. I believe with more push and notoriety, he will be virtually more known. I was put on by a friend, and I have been thankful ever since LOL!

      • SupremeSoulstice

        Gibbs is dope but if he was that dope the people would solidify that by buying the records. Niggas gotta get out they feelings and realize sometimes the shit don't work. Jeezy gave that man a chance and you hating on em?? C'mon son...

        • Freshsup

          It was a lot more than that. Jeezy just giving his side. Bottom line is Gibbs hasn't put out anything but fire, I don't see where going Independent is a problem, make good music and perform well. Jeezy can't fuck w/ Gibbs imo

  • MidKnightMaRawder

    Ill take Pinata over anything Jeezy has been involved with ever

    • CNTRSTXX

      Thug Motivation 101 changed the sound of rap for a good 5 years, hell, we wouldn't have the trap of today without that one album. And you're gonna say over ANYTHING Jeezy has ever put out? Pinata is fucking nice, but not monumental.

    • CNTRSTXX

      Thug Motivation 101 changed the sound of rap for a good 5 years, hell, we wouldn't have the trap of today without that one album. And you're gonna say over ANYTHING Jeezy has ever put out? Pinata is fucking nice, but not monumental.

      • MidKnightMaRawder

        You just stated that he's to blame for a whole era of shit production and mediocre rhymes. So yes, I still take piñata. One single beat of piñata is better than any beat that jeezy has ever rhymed over.

        • leutrim

          that is false and a crude generalization

          • MidKnightMaRawder

            It's the sad truth.

          • leutrim

            I'd agree in that Pinata is better than any Jeezy project, but Jeezy has certainly made plenty of quality material.

          • MidKnightMaRawder

            I never said he dint make quality material. He did. I just don't think any of that material exceeds the quality of piñata.

          • Dat nigga

            straight acid-buggin homie. gibbs aint never made anything better than the recession or trap or die 2. facts.

          • MidKnightMaRawder

            Your facts*

          • Dat nigga

            thee facts*

          • NAM

            That's real. But Pinata is cold as fuck

          • NYCityKid

            Just cause it's your truth it don't make it the truth. Thug Motivation 101 is a classic ask most people who grew up around that time. Most people still can't tell you the name of a Freddy Gibbs song.

          • Stian Nicolaysen

            For some people it`s a classic, but you`re already lost if you`re using the "most people" argument. You know what most people want? Iggy Azalea and Nicki Minaj. Freddie Gibbs is for the streets. Pinata is a future classic.

          • NYCityKid

            Yea I am los cause u lost me. With that Iggy and Nicky comment.

          • Stian Nicolaysen

            Look at the charts. Am I lying? We live in a world with a fucked up musical landscape.

          • MidKnightMaRawder

            That's the thing with my first comment. The first word i typed was "Ill" meaning I could care less what the fuck anyone thinks. I still take Pinata over any mediocre piece of music Jeezy has made.

          • Dat nigga

            he's a nerd. if you cant relate, then atleast try. thats called understanding.

        • wutangshogun

          Pinata had better beats, so? We're not arguing about if Madlib is better than Shawty Redd. Freddie Gibbs is a good artist and arguably "better" in the backpacker/lyricist sense of the word but Jeezy is a legend.

          • espyy

            legend? legend? HAHAHA. 30 y in the future nobody will know who the fuck is Jeezy.

          • NYCityKid

            I highly doubt that. He put out too many hits for his name not to be recognized you sound crazy. Sounds like something a hater would say.

          • Dat nigga

            false. his ad-libs alone will live on. shit yeezys favorite song cant tell me nothin contain jeezy ad-libs. you're a hater and reaching.

          • espyy

            I'm not a hater, I enjoyed a lot of Jeezy songs. But meh, not even a legend. I think y'all say legend too easy.

          • MidKnightMaRawder

            Mainstream legend*

          • wutangshogun

            ^ backpacker comment

      • Sticky

        I don't think that first sentence is supporting your argument the way you think it does

    • kyle newsferd

      All of jeezy hits since 2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>piñata

  • malcyvelli

    To be real I only heard a couplem and I stress a couple, tracks from Gibbs and they were dope. He was, if he hasn't already, gaining a following and people were anticipating his music so I just don't get it. If there was absolutely no demand for Gibbs then I could give Jeezy more credit but you know how it go, there's always two sides to a story and then there's the truth.

  • codeboi

    Gibbs is dope. I don't know the whole story but I do know he's responsible for making the best out of that situation for himself, not Jeezy. Take the connects he had and move accordingly. I hope he keeps doing his thing.

  • Bashir Retro Bazemore

    I put him on songs. I gave him money for videos he didn't use because he didn't like them. Sound like jeezy tried to impose his opinion of what HE thought gibbs should be. Without giving gibbs room to do what GIBBS wanted too do.. I see how it could be a fallout and GIBBS dissing him now

    • leutrim

      Well, it makes sense, if you're investing in someone's career, you want some input so that they don't just fail.

    • anon

      my parents could tell me what to do when they paid my bills. if i wanted it my way i had to do it myself.

    • kyle newsferd

      I guess that's why yg is more succesful than Gibbs huh

  • marty mcfly

    As far as Gibbs goes, the game works like this plain and simple. You gotta put up hit records back to back to back and then do better then the signed artists that bring money in for the parent labels... Until you do that? Then its gonna be hard for anybody to care about your music. Nobody cares how real or gangster you are anymore and nobody cares about your support as an independent artists. Gibbs dropped a bunch of dope records and built up a following and put out a dope album earlier this year right? Ok Young Thug just made one fucking club song that goes so therefore he automatically wins over Gibbs. Its not about real shit anymore, its about fuckery and thats because these independent artists haven't established their own industry yet.

    • Sticky

      Not everyone cares about hit records. Obviously the way the industry is now you'll have more "relevancy" if you make hit records but there's still room for dope, complete projects which is pretty clear with the critical acclaim piñata got. Money & fame don't always come with that, I don't think it ever will and that's perfectly fine. Young thug doesn't win because they aren't even playing the same game.

      • marty mcfly

        OK well then dont complain then. You say there's still room for dope and I understand you saying that in a 2DBZ comment section but in them streets? The room for dope is getting smaller and smaller and thats why the ones you would considered dope and that are "relevant" are backed by major labels. You people keep talking about Pinata but at the end of the day? What can Gibbs do with your props if you aint buy the album so he can build up his brand? Gibbs cant do shit with your props, he needs his album to fly off the shelf so he can reinvest in himself as an artist. Until you Pinata fans do that then yeah Young Thug does win. Look at it from Jeezy perspective. If you come up to him on some shit like hey Jeezy if you plug me in the game, I wont make no hit records but I'll rap really good? Is that how Jeezy is playing? NO, Jeezy looking at the bank period. Fuck all that other shit and until the underground finally gets it through their fucking heads that if you dont support the dope shit? They will ALWAYS fail at the game part eventually. You cant drive cross country with little to no gas in the tank. The sells numbers for an artists is that gas.

        • Sticky

          Yeah I agree I wish more people were purchasing albums. One of the reasons I think albums like YGs will sell more is because the people who buy that aren't really into music as much as people who want all the lesser known albums as well. No disrespect to him or his fans but if that's your favored kind of hip-hop in most cases there are fewer albums to buy a year than if you are trying to support all the dope music you see on a site like 2dopeboyz. Trying to attract that audience that will boost your album sales is a hard thing to balance with making a dope balanced album ie. Twact

      • anon

        it's MOE if you aren't generating revenue no one gives 2 f**ks. records aren't free to make.

    • Sticky

      The way I see it the rapper trying to make a hit is in a completely different profession

      • marty mcfly

        Its not a different profession. The element of rapping is the same across the board whether its dope shit or fuckery. Until these dope niggas realize that its actually in their favor to beat a wack rapper at his own game? Then that dope lane is gonna become smaller and smaller by the year until it just doesn't matter anymore. If you look around now, its already that way.

        • jamminonthe1

          same profession, different end game. gibbs makes albums, yg makes singles... you're never gunna here a legend like madlib fuckin with a yg, plain and simple

          • marty mcfly

            Its the same profession and the same end game. Gibbs and Yg do what for a living? They rap and that music makes its way to peoples ears, correct? Thats the game right there. You say Gibbs makes albums, well Yg just did the same thing. Its your opinion on what is better but its the same shit. Madlib is dope but honestly not every gives a fuck because some rappers feel like they dont give a fuck what beat it is, they'll lace any beat period. Im not saying Gibbs should change his music but if it donesn't connect with the people then it is what it is. Even the people who like his album, did you buy it? Probably not, now im not mad at you BUT you obviously dont like his music too much cause if you did, you'd at least support it. Thats where YG wins, his fans support, Gibbs does not.

          • marty mcfly

            And you people really need to stop with this Madlib legend shit. Im not mad at Madlib and I understand why people feel the way they do. Now me personally, id say some other producers are legends and Madlib is just dope but if you feel like Madlib is so legendary then buy his fucking music. NUMBERS is the only thing they can use to work through the politics of the game so they can have the opportunity to create with bigger artists at a higher level and reach more people.

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            This dude Marty is a Madlib hater, so try to go easy on him LOL!

          • marty mcfly

            Im not a Madlib hater, I actually bought and own most of his music. The problem is you so called Madlib fans dont but you wanna claim how legendary he is but you dont support his music.

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            I do support his music, I bought the album. Unlike some niggas I buy my Vinyls and CD's because I want to look back on them LOL!

          • marty mcfly

            Ok then STFU. The shit I say about Madlib is the truth and he knows it himself. If I imply that the majority of Hip Hop fans dont want no Mablib beats because if they did they would buy it? Thats not some ridiculous statement. Thats based on the reality of the situation. Its a reason people would rather do music with Dj Mustard the Madlib. Its not about who makes better music because obviously that would be Madlib. Its about who wants to get somewhere in the business of music vs those who are happy with making dope music that very few people actually want.

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            Wow for an ass, you are starting to see things my way Marty. At first you were the stereotypical hater fool, well at least you admitted that Madlib is actually indeed a great producer LOL! Okay fuck nut carry on talking to yourself now. Hahahaha.

          • marty mcfly

            I never said he wasn't dope bitch. You be talking like I said that and thats cause your an idiot.

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            You did I can bring up previous posts when you said something to the effect that "He is not a great producer, and I think most producers are better than him even ALC" you have said this shit before. You must have seen that Kanye video in which he gives Madlib credit ofr being a big influence on his sound him and Jay Dee. At least you learned something, which is good nice to see another Madlib fan now, remember to pick up his Lootpack/Quasimoto, and Shades of Blue projects to start off.

          • marty mcfly

            I dont give a fuck who gives him credit nigga. Its a LONG list of producers that are WAY better then Madlib and that includes Kanye. Yeah I fuck with Madlib, been heard his shit for years now and honestly 95% of it is meh. He's a dope producer cause he's different but dont get it twisted its niggas out here blowing his beats completely out the fucking water LOL. He got that shit sound like the Bomb Squad made it in 1988 or some shit.

          • marty mcfly

            I used the Scott Storch beat for Lean Back for a reason and thats to show that you can still make dope beats and still do better then the fucking wack rappers.

          • marty mcfly

            Its alot of rappers that feel like they cant even rap to a Madlib beat cause the fucking rhythm is constantly interrupted by other sounds so they just pass on his beats. Even Gibbs said it took a while to even rap over his beats. Now thats not a diss because there is still an art to his beats but if niggas dont even wanna rap on it then thats an issue. Same with AraabMuzik, he used to make shit that niggas couldn't even rap over cause the fucking beats was all over the place. Once he learned to give rappers a pocket then shit started coming out dope (The Hope by Fabolous for example). Madlib dont need to learn anything as a producer cause im sure he knows everything already but still though, its a reason why his beats aint exactly in demand these days.

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            His beats are meant to be experimental, that is kinda the idea. He has a distinct sound, but what ties him and Jay Dee so close is their production styles. A lot of rappers in the game rap over half breed beats and shit. Trap/808/post electro type beats are not pure hip-hop production to begin with.

            This new generation has acclimated to these beats. So of course they are going to be able to ride them more, than a purer hip-hop beat. If all I do is rap over experimental beats and call it hip-hop then, when I get on a real one it may seem harder to flow over. Hip-Hop now from the raps, flow, delivery, has changed exponentially. It is a far cry from what the 90's was this can be both good and bad.

          • marty mcfly

            His beats are hard to rhyme to because of reasons I described bitch. Its not so much that there experimental. Its that most of them aint even structured in a way where a song can even be made at all period. It be sounds interrupting the rhythm alot of times, the fucking tempo is off at times and it dont even have the structure of a rap song most times. Now thats not to say he's not dope but that is to say the reason niggas aint running to Madlib for beats is because you can hardly make a decent song outta them shits. YES he's a dope producer, and again fukboy, I never said he wasn't.

          • disqus_xpmwx1oUV3

            Fuck nut you pretty much did, and there are tons of beats that you can flow over of Madlibs. Many MC's have flowed over his experimental beats and do it well. He also has production like his Shades of Blue album, that are pure hip-hop instrumentation.

            Hell many of J Dilla's beats are experimental dumb ass, but it is still a pure hip-hop beat. You have shit twisted, a beat you cannot ride would be off of Lupe's FOTP mixtape. That is more experimental than a conventional hip-hop beat from Madlib or Dilla.

        • Sticky

          It's a different profession because while everyone wants a radio hit obviously, different artists have very different approaches to that. Some would rather make an album that has some radio friendly songs while others make albums packed with radio attempts. I prefer the former and I support dope albums but I agree that it would be great if they could do both, not many artists can tho

      • jamminonthe1

        you said it best. from what i can tell gibbs has only gotten better post jeezy, i mean madlib produced his entire album... not many get to say that. all of that aside, jeezy is now comparing gibbs to yg so i'm glad it didn't work out because gibbs is the type of dude who can crush your spirit just by his voice and yg is well... nothing like that at all

        • marty mcfly

          The reason Madlib hasn't produced people's entire albums is because artists know thats not gonna work to well for them musically or business wise. People just dont wanna hear Madlib beats. Now someone like you (and me) would listen to Madlib,were considered underground purists Hip Hop heads. We are the 5% of Hip Hop fans. Nobody else wants to hear shit from Madlib and thats why most artists pass on Madlib. That is not a shot a Madlib BUT until he has a Scott Storch moment like Lean Back with Fat Joe? People just dont care.

  • marty mcfly

    The "Underground" needs to build its own industry so therefore its no need to play "the game" anymore.

    • codeboi

      "The Game" will always be played. It's been around too long. Even independent not independent anymore.

      • marty mcfly

        Ok so dont complain when your music doesnt do shit. Its because your still running with an oldschool industry format in 2014.

        • codeboi

          Nothing wrong with complaining. Even if the artist YOU like isn't exactly making hit after hit, there is nothing wrong with still wanting them to have some type of mainstream or national look. There are plenty of artist that don't have hits that we wish the world knew about. Why can't a person complain for taking that artist as they are as opposed to following protocol.

          • marty mcfly

            Ok you can complain then. Proceed with that but the niggas making hits dont sit around and complain, they just get busy. I would suggest these artists complaining start doing the same.

          • codeboi

            I said nothing is wrong with it. I'm not complaining at all. I can sit here and analyze the game just as good if not better than you can. At the end of the day these are opinionated evaluations no matter how right one feels they are. Different artist in the game for different reasons. Too each it's own. I hope everybody get money and respect for what they do..

          • marty mcfly

            No you cant because my argument was for artists to play their own game outside of "the game", or argument was people will always play "the game" as its been for the last fucking generation. Thats backwards thinking. Gibbs is in the game for money period and you'd probably be wrong if you think he doing this shit just to do it.

          • codeboi

            Agree to disagree homie..I'm not about to go back and forth with somebody who thinks they know the mechanics of the industry. I see from a lot of your post you're blinded by your own knowledge of the industry or lack there of. Even when I agree to disagree you still find a way to combat. You got it homie. Do you even know which direction the industry is currently headed man?

          • marty mcfly

            When did I mention the mechanics of the music industry? My opinion is based on common sense dumbass. My comments weren't even about the industry or where its headed in fool.

          • marty mcfly

            My comments simply imply this basic principle... If you play the industry game more so then your own fucking game tailored by you for you then dont complain when the fucking dinosaur industry business model aint working for you in 2014. This is not a difficult concept to grasp dummy.

          • codeboi

            I got you bruh. I come on these boards to state my opinion on subjects. Not to get in a name calling match with somebody I don't know. Once again...agree to disagree. I was arguing the fact that you said people can't complain. Not that you were wrong about what you were implying. No one is gonna impose there fucking opinion on me homie. I come on here to express MY feelings on the matter, not look for your validation on them. Other post I see where you coming from and se I don't.These blogs have people thinking they are professional industry insiders. Lol we all keep up with rap man. Chillout.Peace tho.

          • marty mcfly

            Im not here to ask for anybodies validation or give anybody validation and I dont go at people unless they come at me first. Other then that, im just saying. I could speak on the inner workings of the industry if I wanted but its no need for that. My comments are based around common sense so that way I shouldn't be no confusion. Nothing Im saying needs to be fact checked by some industry nerd who probably comes from outside the culture to begin with.

          • codeboi

            I'm very aware of the culture and Much respect and your views. Peace.

  • 2dope4nope

    Fuck a "at the end of the day" he definitely blackballed and wanted a puppet trap rapper outta FG! And ok I love the westcoast but everybody and their YG smh till the day YG makes a piñata or kills a madlib track but until then....*crickets*

  • leutrim

    This is actually a very mature and credible response from Jeezy. I am a huge Gibbs fan, been following him for a good 5 years now, but it really just sounds like the relationship dissolved because of the lack of success, more than anything, and Gibbs got salty. Jeezy really seems like he doesn't care because he knows he took a flyer on a great underground artist and that it very easily would prove unsuccessful. I don't blame Jeezy for trying to give Gibbs some commercial appeal, it's a part of the business.

    • jamminonthe1

      i don't think it's as "mature" so much as "premeditated" which is a fuckboy move cuz he stated he never plans shit out and just does him but imo dude's been in the game long enough to understand firing back at a diss record especially one as ill as freddie's, wasn't going to do him well. idk i look at this fool and i hear what he's saying and none of it seems legit, real thought out plan of attack if ya ask me

      • leutrim

        Jeezy doesnt have to defend his price or credibility to the public. Premeditated or not, he comes out of this looking good. Not to say Gibbs looks bad, "Real" was a dope diss track and Pinata was an incredible project that further established Gibbs as one of the finest artists out there, but he does come off as childish and salty, to a point.

  • deeznuts

    well still going to listen your new album, but if its trash then ITS TRASH NIGGA!

  • codeboi

    Piñata was dope but it wasn't a Jeezy album. A lot of fans don't go back in those moments. So stuck in the now they don't give the past respect. Jeezy had shit on lock for a minute and shifted the landscape just like any of your "favorite " rappers have. I respect him cause he swear he's not a rapper but he's gotten a lot better at rapping than he was. His brand has lasted this long and you'll never get another him. Say what you want but everything from Adlibs, Tone and Delivery....it's authentic and memorable.

  • HIPHOPHEAD

    the difference is gibbs aint a sell out and make wack music yg is trash

  • Retro

    Gibbs himself said on "Str8 Killa, No Filla," specifically the track "Slammin" that "I'm so gangsta these industry niggas declined on me." That was back in 09 & he got with Snow in 2011. What did he expect to magically change in those 2 years? Just because you had Snow trying to pull strings for you, you've already been shot down once. He got you on tracks with 2 of raps biggest stars, took you on tour, gave you mad press and at the end of the day it still wasn't enough. That's not his fault and all the bullshit you threw his way wasn't necessary.

    I been listening to Gibbs for a long while but listening to Jeezy for even longer. Love em both but Freddie was & still is in the wrong here...

  • johnvincent

    Jeezy WINS. You're gonna keep trying to invest in a sinking ship? Fuck outta here. This "real" hip hop shit don't make money if you don't at least try to approach it in the right way. If underground artists don't want to suck their pride in just a little bit, then continue doing the leftover Rock the Bells dates.

  • alois24KB

    Freddie Gibbs never needed a label, for me he's better alone. And he can do what the fuck he want to do. Well i'm not a fan of Jeezy but i respect the guy. Jeezy is half mainstream half underground rapper, Freddie Gibbs only a real underground rapper. Nobody can say that he's not a real rapper, go listen to Deeper or something from his Pinata album you'll see. For me, this beef is dumb and this shit won't make me say fuck Jeezy or fuck Freddie Gibbs, i only hope that they gon stay in work.

    • marty mcfly

      Gibbs doesn't have to change his music. Thats a personal option for the artists. Fans dont really care whats mainstream or underground. They'll buy Lil Wayne or Action Bronson, they dont give a shit just as long as the music is good. Gibbs made that last album with Madlib and even though its good, it seems like the majority of fans dont give a shit. Bottom line

  • http://soundcloud.com/shadowstar-boxer Shadowstar Boxer

    I'm an older head. Not much of this is relevant to me except one main point. It's great to see an artist that has OBVIOUSLY lived under heavy stereotypes takes such a hands-on approach to growing artists.