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JAY Z, DMX & Ja Rule’s Short-Lived Murder Inc. Group Have Songs We’ve Yet to Hear

blame it on Shake October 19, 2014
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After joining Mic Geronimo on “Time To Build” in 1995, JAY Z, DMX and Ja Rule joined forces years later as the short-lived group Murder Inc. A few killer cuts were released with plans of a full-length to follow but, to the severe disappointment of fans all around, never came to fruition. (Stupid egos.)

Nearly 20 years later at Def Jam’s 30th anniversary concert in Brooklyn, Ja Rule speaks with MTV’s Rob Markman about the group’s demise.

“We tried to deliver that album. It was a situation where egos all just played a part in its demise. We couldn’t get X and Jay in the same room, from long ago, their storied battle on the pool table, guns out [and] all of that. That carried over into our careers and we were all trying to do our thing separately and it carried over. It was hard to get all of us into a room to do what we needed to do.”

We’ve been hearing that for years, but Ja decided to go a step further and reveal there are a few songs we have yet to hear from the group.

“We did a few records together and those records will always be classics to a lot of people in the history of hip-hop. I wish that album would’ve came to fruition, it would’ve been real dope. I think there might be one– one or two joints that’s still out there that you haven’t heard…. Gotti got ‘em.”

  • RedHood

    SOMEONE GET GOTTI GOT NOW!

  • DC King Of Hearts

    SERIOUSLY?! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THERE WAS MORE?! GOTTI GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR AND RELEASE THEM JOINTS!!!! RIGHT STAT NOW DAMMIT!!!

  • The Don Killuminati

    They’ll be featured on Detox.

    • DC King Of Hearts

      Damn LOL

  • Legendarystone

    That nigga still says “holla” I love it

  • Legendarystone

    Gotti need to up them joints asap tho

  • artclasshero

    Get Anonymous to run that like Lupe Fiasco’s release date!

  • datbul

    Everybody clamoring for these unreleased joints… but let me save ya’ll the disappointment: It’s not 2001 no more, niggas. Be real: Do you really wanna hear Ja-Rule in 2014? If these joints ever get released, niggas gon’ be like, “Damn yo, this shit hot! This that real hip-hop right here”… but that’s only gon’ be on the outside. On the inside, niggas gon’ be lowkey tryin’ to suppress the fact that the shit sound mad dated and the fact that they know damn well they never gon’ listen to any of them shits again. Lol. We’ve all had that experience before. Shit be mad painful.

    • Dat nigga

      You trippin.

      • datbul

        I ain’t trippin’ nigga. Nobody wanna hear that old ass shit. Whatchu doin’ here anyway? Ain’t you supposed to be over there listening to “Don’t Panic” and shit? Looooooooooool.

        • childof83 .

          I aint hatin on you you have your own opinion but the production and lyrics back then were way fresher then the stuff we have now on the main stream level anyways. The production from that time period sounded so crazy, let alone dope lyrics. Just because something is older dont mean its bad.

          • datbul

            I was half-joking with you. I love the old stuff. But there was just as much trash on the mainstream scene then as there is now. People have a tendency to remember past ages as golden ages. Like “My Neck, My Back” and everything ever released by Silk The Shocker never happened and shit. There will always be ‘quality’ music and ‘strictly for entertainment’ music. And though I’ll agree that hip-hop put lyricism and skill on a higher level overall in the early 2000’s and that the focus on lyrcism has cooled off some since… production has only gotten better. Don’t try and use DJ Mustard, who makes the same beat over and over, as the end all and be all to this production shit. We got Kanyes, 1500 or Nothin’, Justice League, The Buchanans, Boi-1da, Mike Will Made It and countless others makin’ straight up heaters.

          • Dat nigga

            Agreed and I see where you’re coming, but that doesn’t apply to to jay z dmx ja rule in their prime. Them in their prime is what produced those timeless records I named. So any unreleased music most def needs to be released.

          • datbul

            Like I said to the other dude, I was half-joking. I love prime Jay and prime X [can’t say Iove prime Rule but he did have some mega hits]. But real talk, hearing old stuff new often doesn’t have the same impact it would have had you heard it when it was made. Of course I’d check out the songs if they were actually released. If for no other reason than to hear Jay during the time when he was spittin’ nothin’ but fire. I just don’t expect it to hit me like it did the first time I heard ‘Rengade’ or ‘Money, Power Respect’. Songs I still listen to to this very day.

          • Dat nigga

            Each is own I would say. Cuz I know when I stumble over old shit I ain’t heard or aint heard since it came out, I go in and play it tf out. By then, a new French Montana record should have been released lmao. That’s my life lol

          • childof83 .

            we had silk the shocker and my neck my back but that wasn’t the face of hiphop at the time. Today the bs has become the face of hiphop. Like back in the early 2ks there was more diversity in hiphop in my opinion.

          • datbul

            I’d say that’s a fair statement in some ways. But Drake and Kendrick and Kanye are just as much the “faces” of hip-hop as YG, Migos and Wakka Flocka. And then there are niggas like Rick Ross, who are fake and rap about the most proposterous shit, but have an undeniably dope voice and flow. So I’d say this generation can lay claim to diversity as much as any. It wasn’t until Kanye came around that rappers didn’t have to be all G’d up. He literally changed rap forever. But I will agree that lyricism was more appreciated from the 90s into the early 2000s.

          • childof83 .

            Kendrick is a good rapper, sometimes I just feel like he has been trying too hard recently when he really doesn’t have to. I never felt like rappers had to be gd up before kanye. I personally miss the old kanye before 808s. A lot of people refer to kendrick and kanye changing the game. But I remember rappers like mos def,beanie sigel, methof ect all being played on the radio along side the likes of nelly and mystical. I listen to my local staion now all I hear is migos,young thug,drake and a bunch of anoying r&b. They may play some commercial kendrick songs but thats it. Why ant I hearing no Krit on the radio or no Currensy? I feel like if it was the early 2ks theyed be on the radio

          • datbul

            I hear you. I think you make some valid critiques. Radio has definitely gone the way of mediocrity. But I don’t listen to the radio. So I’m good. Lol.

          • Dat nigga

            But I don’t listen to the radio. So I’m good. Lol.

            ^ that’s the whole point of the future, at least music wise; listen to what you like, who cares what the radio is playing bcuz they ALWAYS cater to what draws in the most listeners.

          • datbul

            Facts.

          • childof83 .

            and see its a shame we cant listen to the radio no more for good music. And thats because companies are paying radio stations to play certain artist. And it just so happens a lot of music with bs content is getting pushed. Dont get me wrong I dont mind hearing migos and shyt in the club because I like to party too. But then again what happened to the club music that missy and ludacris gave us. You could party to the music or just ryde to it and listen to the lyrics. I get so angry about it because I def belive there is an agenda being pushed with this low grade music now days. Kanye for an example, his music use to make me feel something now its emotionless to me. But maybe that’s just me. Anyways I like discussing this with you man glad to see you have something to say as well.

        • Dat nigga

          Don’t panic go. If you say it don’t then you a lame. It’s one or the other. But so does life after death ready to die no way out reasonable doubt and in my lifetime. And ja rule classics better than drake. So idk what you talking about.

          • datbul

            ‘Don’t Panic’ definitely goes. I be goin’ in to that jawn. And all those other joints you mentioned are bonafied classics. Of course they go. Only hiccup you made was that Ja-Rule > Drake blasphemy. All the ‘your opinion is your opinion’ stuff aside… that statement is an A-1 Fail.

          • Dat nigga

            Drake has no “put it on me” or “I cry”. Till then, he’s far down the todem pole even in his own lane.

          • datbul

            Looooooooool. Nigga there’s no hope for you when it comes to Drake. You just don’t fuck wit dude. *turns on ‘Don’t Panic’; goes in* :D

          • Dat nigga

            “Real bitches gon wait on him, fake bitches gon skate on him. Skeeeeeerrt!”

          • datbul

            My favorite line is, “Don’t Panic… Don’t panic… we just gettin’ started nigga Don’t Panic.” Loooooool. Bars!

          • Dat nigga

            Nah the bars he spit more along the lines like “it’s hell on earth. God gon help you, help yourself first.”

          • datbul

            Yeah I know, you like them ‘straight truth, no pretenses’ type lines.

          • Dat nigga

            Because sometimes less is more. That one line may seem simplicit on the surface, but that shit deep bruh. That’s what’s called bars going over your head. Not you specifically just in general. And don’t need 8-syllabled words neither to make a deep statement. Just some real shit. Jayz, biggie smalls esque.

          • datbul

            I wouldn’t call it an ‘over your head’ type of line. I’d call it a ‘right through your head’ type of line. Niggas hear it and let it go in one ear and right out the other like, ‘Yeah whatever’… but if they really took a minute to let that shit sink in, they’d realize how close to home that shit really hits for niggas everyday lives; especially for niggas out here strugglin’.

          • Dat nigga

            Yeah that’s more accurate. I just say over bcuz a lot of it doesn’t even get heard before the opinions and judgements are made up and regurgitated.

          • datbul

            Oh wait. I forgot. “Have ya bitch on the surfboard… surfboard… surfboard… if you want this money gotta’ work for it.”

          • Dat nigga

            Ayyyyyeee!!

          • datbul

            It do. Real rap. I’m not mad at French at all.

          • Dat nigga

            Gotta be able to move the crowd. The verses to that song alone make yo head nod when you read em.

    • childof83 .

      lol..please the music now days is ugggghhh music from 2001 sounds sooo fresh

      • datbul

        Whatever, nigga. You got that old man syndrome. Every generation swears their music was the best and the new music is terrible.

        It’s a new day, nigga. But ya’ll go ahead and bump that Rule Baby and J-Lo in the whip all day. More power to ya’ll. :D

        • childof83 .

          I never really cared for all of the rule an jlos songs. I really dont like a lot of the current music because I cant paint a mental picture of what the artist is trying to say. But if you like these new artist like young thug and them by all means my man continue to listen. The sad thing is this is still my generation today. But the music I was listening to in highschool would go over a high schoolers head today and thats a problem. Its called regression. And you are right it is a new day in more ways than one lol

          • Dat nigga

            How can you not paint that mental picture? Call these niggaz out lol

    • Prince Akeem

      realest comment

    • MidKnightMaRawder

      Stop typing these pointless unintelligent conversations. I’m trying to scroll down to see other comment #sheesh

      • datbul

        Step ya scroll game up then, nigga. Or invest in a better mouse. Don’t get mad at me cuz you get all ya computer accessories from the swap meat and shit. You knew that left mouse button felt sticky the first time you tested it out. You fucked up.

        :D :D :D

  • War

    I bet Datbul is actually 50 Cent.

    • Dat nigga

      Lmaoooooo

    • datbul

      Loool. Yo if you gon’ go in on me at least hit that ‘reply’ button so I can go in back. A nigga just so happened to stumble across ya ‘go in’ and shit. We don’t do them sneak disses ’round here, nigga. :D

      • Dat nigga

        Lmao!!

      • War

        “Sneak disses”
        You definitely need to find a substitute means to pass your time with. If a dude gets salty about being compared to one of the most commercially established Rappers of all time, then I’m intrigued to know where your time spent hitting ‘Reply’ has gotten you in life.
        But it’s cool, I didn’t mean to upset you, kid.

        • datbul

          I was joking, my man. Your joke was funny. Hence the ‘loool’ and the smiley face.

  • Floppy

    does someone have the song “Ink Anthem”?????
    I never could found it but it’s real, you can find the lyrics

  • Paul Watson

    GOTTI GUNA SELL EM LIKE WU DID

  • “hustlemania”

    Has Jay or DMX ever spoke of this ???

  • Papi

    Nobody got time for dat.